John Noble-worried about lopsided expression

[JustThinking]

Did anyone notice that one side of John's face seemed numbed? He seemed to be talking from one side of his mouth. Was that just make up to show greater age for him- or a real problem like a stoke? Don't know if he could keep working is that had happened- but it was making me nervous.

[dALTnielle]

He had a stroke in prison (someone mentioned in another thread that it was mentioned by the writers) and left his right side sort of paralyzed.

[Omniscient_Jay]

Did anyone notice that one side of John's face seemed numbed? He seemed to be talking from one side of his mouth. Was that just make up to show greater age for him- or a real problem like a stoke? Don't know if he could keep working is that had happened- but it was making me nervous.

It was in-character. I guess we are supposed to assume that Walter had a stroke at some point after 2011, hence the benumbed mouth and the stiffness of his left side (though it may have been his right; I can't recall clearly).

Besides, it couldn't be Noble that had a stroke because Walternate showed no signs of stroke whatsoever.

[JustThinking]

It was in-character. I guess we are supposed to assume that Walter had a stroke at some point after 2011, hence the benumbed mouth and the stiffness of his left side (though it may have been his right; I can't recall clearly).

Besides, it couldn't be Noble that had a stroke because Walternate showed no signs of stroke whatsoever.

Oh- good point about Walternate. Noble is so good I forget they are the same person! So, I wonder how they did that. Pretty hard to only talk with half your mouth.

[littlemcbeast]

It was in-character. I guess we are supposed to assume that Walter had a stroke at some point after 2011, hence the benumbed mouth and the stiffness of his left side (though it may have been his right; I can't recall clearly).

It was his right. And John Noble did a fantastic job portraying it (as he does with everything); he even had the pronated hand in his paretic arm.

For his face, it's possible they just numbed it using Lidocaine. Otherwise he has incredible facial control!

[F=MA]

I am watching it right now and Walter/net defiantly look likes they both are having problems speaking out of the right side of his mouth. Its plainly obvious for Walter and works with the story line. Yet, Walternet, shows less but, it is still noticeable. John Noble? are you ok? Am I really seeing this?:hope:

[PACEY]

It was in-character. I guess we are supposed to assume that Walter had a stroke at some point after 2011, hence the benumbed mouth and the stiffness of his left side (though it may have been his right; I can't recall clearly).

Besides, it couldn't be Noble that had a stroke because Walternate showed no signs of stroke whatsoever.


Hate to correct but maybe you should watch this episode again because Walternate DOES show signs of stroke as never before. Walternate's right mouth and face are pulled down like myasthenia gravis, etc Isn't always a stroke that changes facial features.:confused0006:

[littlemcbeast]

Hate to correct but maybe you should watch this episode again because Walternate DOES show signs of stroke as never before. Walternate's right mouth and face are pulled down like myasthenia gravis, etc Isn't always a stroke that changes facial features.:confused0006:

I agree, I also noticed Walternate had slightly a weaker right facial tone (I was looking to see if both of them showed signs of a stroke); I just assume it's because they had to Lidocaine John Noble's face to get the paralyzed effect, and it didn't have time to fully wear off before he switched characters. If you look, his paralysis is much less noticeable's than Walter's. (And in the last scene, both of them look pretty much back to normal).

[DeepFire]

Maybe some silly didn't used a right dose of it.. and it lasted more :|

[The Real Olivia]

:happy15:John Noble is an amazing actor. He has such range whether playing the pixilated Walter, or his evil universal twin; I am amazed by the acting prowess he brings to the role. I remember John as the mad king in the Last Lord of the Rings Sequel. He was spectacularly demented in that role, determined to burn his living son on a flaming pyre. John makes me sympathetic towards Walter's character, little boy lost in the real world and sharp as a tack when delving into academia and science. His love and dependence towards his son Peter is so touching. That is why I truly hope Peter's character is brought back in some real content whether, past or future because the dichotomy of charters fits like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Olivia is the crowning element to this worldly and scientific trinity. This is why Fringe works and people love the show. I try not to get too celeberal about scripts. I just look forward to being amazed with each show and the tremendous cast's body of work.

[Ophelia's Hamlet]

Hate to correct but maybe you should watch this episode again because Walternate DOES show signs of stroke as never before. Walternate's right mouth and face are pulled down like myasthenia gravis, etc Isn't always a stroke that changes facial features.:confused0006:
It could be that some of the stuff used to stiffen his face was still on him when he played Walternate. It might be something else, but I don't think it's anything permanently wrong with John Noble.