Do you want Peter and Olivia to get together?

[bookworm2342]

Just out of curiosity, how many people want Peter and Olivia to get together, and how many don't?

[LovinSha]

I would like them to get together because I like what the writers have done with the P/O chemistry on the show. It's so raw and natural. I've seen few shows (especially dramas) who know how to do ships really well. P/O has great potential of being one of the best TV pairings in terms of writing and chemistry.

Just my opinion...:P

[bookworm2342]

LovinSha, I like and agree with your opinion.

[xofringe314]

Yes, of course! They have such good chemistry and really cute scenes together!

[HappyGoLucky]

Not right now, but eventually....that would be super cute.

[laddie2]

[QUOTE=bookworm2342;96172]Just out of curiosity, how many people want Peter and Olivia to get together, and how many don't?

I have always wanted to see Peter and Olivia together. They have such intense emotions with eachother. They obviously are in love with eachother. I just wish they would admit there true feelings to eachother. I do not think that a pairing between Peter and Olivia will happen for quite a long time:hope::hope::hope:. I think the majority of fans want to see them together. I am hoping the writers will listen to what the fns want. Peter+Olivia[. Is there anyone else that wants those two characters together/QUOTE]

[bookworm2342]

Not right now, but eventually....that would be super cute.

And when it's right, we'll be thrilled to see it. :D

[GoodPeter]

It's gonna happen! I'm waiting to see how Peter's discovery will affect the way he sees Olivia. I'm really hoping that she's not in on the secret before he figures it out. But even if this does happen, it'll create angsty, emotional tension and it will force Olivia to face the possibility of losing him.

The writers want to make us all want it, but I hope it doesn't become a long, drawn out, tedious tease like the X-Files. That was torture. But I think the writers know better than that. They seem like a pretty savvy bunch. I like that Pinkner.

[Mutsie]

I'm not a person who like to see main characters come together as a pair, it might kill the show.
I'm more a kind of a "being-good-friends" person.
Referring to another shows: Mulder and Scully.... It killed the X-files.
Booth and Bones ... Tony and Ziva...

Perhaps I'm the only one who think this way and please don't shoot me for that... Please no shipping in Fringe between main characters....

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[bookworm2342]

You won't be shot. And if I thought the writers would handle it in a way that would ruin the show, I wouldn't want them together either. I have a good feeling about it though, and I know that if/when it happens, the writers will do it in a way that won't ruin the premise of the show.

[Mutsie]

:hug: THNX for not killing me!

That IS my biggest fear: that it might kill the show and when the story-line get "********-ti-ous"....

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[vesh1717]

Thank you for making this thread guys, much appreciated! I voted for no, but I would be OK with it, if it had some huge relevance to the story. Like I said in the other thread, I just want a good sci-fi show, I am not watching it for a love story. But, maybe the writers will surprise me.

Only 3 No's! Holy crap. I really think if this was in general chat we might get different numbers, but who knows.

[gillybee]

Yes, but it has to feel right and done in away that doesn't turn the show into a soap.

If the writers can't do it right I rather they be friends that have a lot of eye sex:haha:.

[Montecito]

No.
It is not meant for them to be together.

[Jacqueline]

No, I've never really liked P/O. It seems like it would break up the family dynamic of the show.

[vesh1717]

at least there are a few people who feel that same as me.. lol 7 so far!

[Montecito]

Peter and Olivia should remain friends and colleagues.
As Joshua Jackson has said they are like brother and sister.
Fringe is not a romantic comedy (and I hope it won't be).
Peter could be with Amy Jessup and Olivia with Nick Lane.
They fit more.

[bookworm2342]

at least there are a few people who feel that same as me.. lol 7 so far!

See? I had a feeling non-shippers would pop in here to offer opinions.

[stupidream]

I voted Yes.

Since the beginning they obviously have chemistry, have been developing their relationship and are now friends. In the future -- if the show allows them to -- I believe they can happen. Of course I don't want the show to become the 'Peter and Olivia soap opera' but their interesting dynamic can create a nice future storyline regarding their feelings for each other :)

That's just my opinion, of course!

[QueenBee]

As a Joshua Jackson fan, I think Josh deserves a role where he doesn't have to be the love-lorn character. he done a lot of that on Dawson's creek. So, no, I prefer Peter and Olivia not romantically involved since peter should be more than Olivia's love interest.

Just the fact that William bell states "cryptically" that Olivia will need him by her side is better television than a soap opera-type relationship :haha:

[PAPAYA]

Fringe is not a romantic comedy (and I hope it won't be).
Peter could be with Amy Jessup and Olivia with Nick Lane.

Your first thesis clashes with your second.

You don't want Fringe to be romantic comedy but you want Amy/Peter and Olivia/Nick ? THAT would be soap opera.

[Montecito]

Your first thesis clashes with your second.

You don't want Fringe to be romantic comedy but you want Amy/Peter and Olivia/Nick ? THAT would be soap opera.

Oh no. :D I just gave a suggestion with whom Olivia and Peter could be couple.
I am fine either way.

[Mutsie]

Just the fact that William bell states "cryptically" that Olivia will need him by her side is better television than a soap opera-type relationship :haha:

:P :happy15:

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[LovinSha]

Just the fact that William bell states "cryptically" that Olivia will need him by her side is better television than a soap opera-type relationship :haha:

Best point ever made! :happy15:

[TheOtherMe]

I think there is a bigger reason about why it will be important or an explaination as to why they could have this unique relationship...

But I think there will be a point where there feelings surface and outweight the scientific phenominom...that it is inevitable...but depending on the specifics of Peter in conjunction with the other reality vs Olivia's potential, I am not sure if this is a smooth ride, nor neccisarily a 'very' happy ending (any one read "His Dark Materials" series?) -but I do feel that it is coming and I like how it's being done so far. ( Miss Solo and prince leah:haha:)

I like that Fringe works opposite of Lost in that the relationships are constintly on the back burner, hidden, because the scientific phenominom is always up front and imninent.

[vesh1717]

30 to 8!! Come on Non-shippers!

[LovinSha]

I'm not a person who like to see main characters come together as a pair, it might kill the show.
I'm more a kind of a "being-good-friends" person.
Referring to another shows: Mulder and Scully.... It killed the X-files.
Booth and Bones ... Tony and Ziva...

Perhaps I'm the only one who think this way and please don't shoot me for that... Please no shipping in Fringe between main characters....

:observer::tiphat:

Mutsie, to be honest, I've never been a fan of this either but I guess to me, it's more of a show-by-show basis. When they try to push two leads together I can tell on which shows are making too forceful to work. I'm more forgiving about "Bones" since it's not a serious crime show like most on TV anyway. "X-Files" eh...I dont know what to think about that. In some cases I see the main lead working better with a supporting character on the show. Weird example: recently I started watching "Lie to Me" and for some strange reason I dont see much going on with the main leads Cal/Gillian. It's not pushed in our face but at the same time I just dont see the chemistry there that I do with Cal/Ria.

"Fringe", of course is one of my few exceptions where I can chemistry between the two leads without it compromising how the rest of the show is set up. What I kinda like about Bad Robot shows is that they're for the most part very character driven shows, even when the cases come into play. And in the best episodes, "Fringe" mixes the best of both worlds.

And the way I see it. The show is supposed to have a huge emphasis on the relationship between the main leads, Olivia, Peter and Walter. So I dont see how anyone would be surprised if P/O comes into play.

Now if you'll excuse me...I must now go hide from the Cal/Gillian shippers. :boxedin:

[Mutsie]

Now if you'll excuse me...I must now go hide from the Cal/Gillian shippers. :boxedin:

:haha: ...and strangely enough I hope that Cal and Gillian will come together as a pair.... They are already business partners so it wouldn't harm the show if they got romantically involved :D!!

:hug:
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[Nic]

Definitely not! It's so cliche and boring. I like the idea of them having a sibling type of relationship - even better if they really were brother and sister. I could see Olivia with Broyles though.

[bookworm2342]

Olivia and Broyles? I have a hard time seeing that.

[dach]

:eek:Olivia and Broyles? really? I cant get over Nina and Broyles let alone Olivia and Broyles.

[bookworm2342]

I think I all but blocked out Nina and Broyles. :haha:

[Nic]

:eek:Olivia and Broyles? really? I cant get over Nina and Broyles let alone Olivia and Broyles.

I'll be the first to admit it's bound to be a shocking pairing to a lot of people, but yeah, Olivia and Broyles. I can't see Olivia and Peter in a romantic way. It's funny, I've been watching a lot of season 1 again lately and Olivia/Broyles just hit me. I could totally see it. I really like the dynamic of their relationship. It's changed so much since the pilot. Anyway, I could go into detail, but you'd probably be like "NOOOOOO!!!!" :haha:

[bookworm2342]

Anyway, I could go into detail, but you'd probably be like "NOOOOOO!!!!" :haha:

Sounds about right. :haha:

[Nic]

Sounds about right. :haha:
:lolol: Yeah I figured. You're all like "my brain doesn't need those images, thank you!" But it is hot!

[Mancha]

Personally I voted yes for them to be together... But that's just me... :happy0025:

~Mancha~

[bookworm2342]

Personally I voted yes for them to be together... But that's just me... :happy0025:

~Mancha~

Glad to meet another Benchwarmer, Mancha.

[zakkeg]

Strongly pro-P/O here. They've got great chemistry, and I reckon the writers could do it well without allowing it to dominate the show (which I think we can all agree would be bad). They've been dropping glances and one-liners since about five episodes in anyway. I normally tend to be a bit more of a cynic, but... see Peter's comment on the subject.

In any case, Walter himself appears to be a dedicated benchwarmer (interesting title you lads and lasses have chosen, by the way), which is good enough for me! :D

[bookworm2342]

I normally tend to be a bit more of a cynic, but... see Peter's comment on the subject.

In any case, Walter himself appears to be a dedicated benchwarmer (interesting title you lads and lasses have chosen, by the way), which is good enough for me! :D

"Beneath every cynic there's a frustrated romantic"

Welcome to the Benchwarmers!

[-CatarinaBranco]

I want them to mash lips :D

[-CatarinaBranco]

I voted Yes
I love the chemistry between them , but if it would kill the show, maybe a one night stand would be just great .. That's just my opinion :)

[stupidream]

Peter and Olivia having more than a friends type of relationship won't 'kill' the show. Poor writing and badly handled storylines are what usually hurts a show, not relationships between characters, specially when they're not forced or rushed, which is the case of P&O. :)

[Rekka]

I am certainly a Olivia/Peter shipper. As things are right now, they are very cute, good friends that could easily take the next step into a relationship. But I don't think it would be easy because various storyline elements. There were some really great interactions between the two in the newest episode, "What Lies Below." :P

[WalterFan]

I agree I would love for them to get together, when the time is right. And as much as I would love for that time to be now- it's not. I can wait- two of my all time favorite ships are those that took so long to get together. I'm talking seasons 6 and beyond. I'm a sucker for angst so the little song and dance games and the tension is great.

[bookworm2342]

Rekka and WalterFan, I agree with both of you. As much as I'd like it to be the right time, it isn't. But it seems that in every episode they're progressing, even if it's only a small amount. It may be the right time sooner than we think.

[stupidream]

rekka and walterfan, i agree with both of you. As much as i'd like it to be the right time, it isn't. But it seems that in every episode they're progressing, even if it's only a small amount. It may be the right time sooner than we think.

ita :)

[-CatarinaBranco]

Rekka and WalterFan, I agree with both of you. As much as I'd like it to be the right time, it isn't. But it seems that in every episode they're progressing, even if it's only a small amount. It may be the right time sooner than we think.
Totally there with you Worms :) :happy15:

[slane]

I like the idea of Peter and Olivia together, but I think the Peter/Rachel relationship is a much more creative dynamic for the show. There are plenty of shows out there where the two leads are placed in a relationship, but not many where it is the leads family. Also, I worry that if they build up too much will they or won't they tension then when they do the ratings will plummet. As much as I like them together I feel that they should hold up on the story line until later on in the show.

[kerusey]

I'm a YES for Peter and Olivia. It doesn't have to happen right away and I don't mind being led around a little bit. It's an slightly-off-center type of show so obviously a conventional relationship isn't going to work. As long as they continue caring about each other and getting closer then I approve completely! And of course, I would love to see it turn into a full relationship situation.. with the odd kink along the way of course *coughglimmerPetercough*

[Meegs82]

I am all for Peter and Olivia, but it's not going to be a smooth ride, no matter which way you look at it. They each have so many issues that it's going to be seriously complicated, but when they DO put them together ('cuz after Jacksonville, you know that's the route the writers are going), there is still going to be a lot for them to deal with together as a couple. This show isn't in danger of the "will they or won't they" scenario, IMO, just because of ALL the baggage they both have...so many dramatic possibilities to throw into the mix of a relationship.

[altprime]

yes, as long as the relationship stays in the background and doesn't become the focus of the show

[-CatarinaBranco]

yes, as long as the relationship stays in the background and doesn't become the focus of the show
I respect this :happy15:

[Rekka]

According to the statistics so far, 85% of us want Peter & Olivia to have some sort of relationship at some point... *squee*

I'm with altprime, too. If they do have a relationship, it should NOT be the focus of the show, obviously. It wouldn't be called Fringe if it were. It'd be called "The Bench"

[Mutsie]

According to the statistics so far, 85% of us want Peter & Olivia to have some sort of relationship at some point... *squee*


...I'm glad to belong to the 15% group who doesn't want to have a RS between P&O....

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[Moviemath]

yes, as long as the relationship stays in the background and doesn't become the focus of the show

:confused0006: Is this truly possible with a show like Fringe?

There is evidence to prove Fringe's writers have struggled to maintain the same level of quality consistency this season as they did with Season 1. The show initially tended toward a more serial approach rather than procedural but this season Fringe has been a little scant on mythology - AU, MD, etc. Coupled with a change of viewing timeslot this 'altered' writing style could have proven fatal for the show :confused0006:.


While prospects look reasonably positive for the return of Fringe for a third season reality may still prove otherwise. Personally, I'm hoping Fox give it the go ahead for Season 3.

In other words, I don't think the show's writers really have it in them [sorry guys:P] to strike up enough interest and balance should they decide to pursue a P/O relationship. And while the arguments against such a relationship have become frustratingly hackneyed it makes them no less valid when referring to history's rather epic and tragic record of lead character relationships ruining an episodic tv show. Even a good show, with top writers :what:.


"What becomes of the hungry when their appetites are satiated??? They are hungry no more."

Will it be enough for shippers to be fed on the crumbs of a lovey-dovey P/O relationship week in week out? 'Ooooh Peter, your perma stubble makes me shiver all over!' 'Ooooh, Olivia, that shampoo you're using what is it? Lilac? I just go wild for it!!!' Oh, puhh-leeese. Bring the wine and crackers folks there's plenty enough cheese here for everyone :haha:!

Do I really have to wait in the wings with my 'Told You So' banner when the writers make that fatal decison to hook Peter and Olivia up. I must admit though my pending disappointment at not being able to write posts like this one anymore. Hmm. :haha:

Besides, there's too much in the mix now don't you think with Olivia knowing Peter's from the other side? Each day that passes is another day she AND Walter keep a life-changing secret from him. Picture this:

Olivia: Peter, I have something important to tell you... you're... you're... from the alternate universe.
Peter: Shut up Liv, let's make out.

Ah... don't think so :confused0006::P.

So you see friends, the cat-and-mouse, will-they-won't-they is set to continue a while longer unless as I see it the show's writers want to get rid of Josh for a while, in which case they'll do the P/O hookup and Pete gets mysteriously taken to the other side. Call it Walter's ransom if you will. Suspense by any other name right? Or could it simply be a tight budget! Speculation is free :happy15:.

Til next time, rant off/:tiphat:


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[Mutsie]

:confused0006: Is this truly possible with a show like Fringe?

There is evidence to prove Fringe's writers have struggled to maintain the same level of quality consistency this season as they did with Season 1. The show initially tended toward a more serial approach rather than procedural but this season Fringe has been a little scant on mythology - AU, MD, etc. Coupled with a change of viewing timeslot this 'altered' writing style could have proven fatal for the show :confused0006:.


While prospects look reasonably positive for the return of Fringe for a third season reality may still prove otherwise. Personally, I'm hoping Fox give it the go ahead for Season 3.

In other words, I don't think the show's writers really have it in them [sorry guys:P] to strike up enough interest and balance should they decide to pursue a P/O relationship. And while the arguments against such a relationship have become frustratingly hackneyed it makes them no less valid when referring to history's rather epic and tragic record of lead character relationships ruining an episodic tv show. Even a good show, with top writers :what:.


"What becomes of the hungry when their appetites are satiated??? They are hungry no more."

Will it be enough for shippers to be fed on the crumbs of a lovey-dovey P/O relationship week in week out? 'Ooooh Peter, your perma stubble makes me shiver all over!' 'Ooooh, Olivia, that shampoo you're using what is it? Lilac? I just go wild for it!!!' Oh, puhh-leeese. Bring the wine and crackers folks there's plenty enough cheese here for everyone :haha:!

Do I really have to wait in the wings with my 'Told You So' banner when the writers make that fatal decison to hook Peter and Olivia up. I must admit though my pending disappointment at not being able to write posts like this one anymore. Hmm. :haha:

Besides, there's too much in the mix now don't you think with Olivia knowing Peter's from the other side? Each day that passes is another day she AND Walter keep a life-changing secret from him. Picture this:

Olivia: Peter, I have something important to tell you... you're... you're... from the alternate universe.
Peter: Shut up Liv, let's make out.

Ah... don't think so :confused0006::P.

So you see friends, the cat-and-mouse, will-they-won't-they is set to continue a while longer unless as I see it the show's writers want to get rid of Josh for a while, in which case they'll do the P/O hookup and Pete gets mysteriously taken to the other side. Call it Walter's ransom if you will. Suspense by any other name right? Or could it simply be a tight budget! Speculation is free :happy15:.

Til next time, rant off/:tiphat:


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:happy15: Greatly said...

&
I need to say: what has it for a purpose IF Olivia and Peter
will be a pair? It isn't Fringe and it has nothing to do with Fringe's Storyline. I mean it doesn't give a special add to the show. The "almost kiss" in Jacksonville was it for the people who wants to see O&P together? To me it was "lame" if I may be honest, when that scene happened I almost choke in my morning coffee. I really had the WTF? feeling {sorry for the language}.

The same issue is happening in NCIS: a lot of TIVA fans wants to see Tony and Ziva together and well a lot of fans don't, because it has nothing to do with NCIS itself. It will kill the sphere this show have.

So basically I really hope the writers aren't "busy" to get P&O together: a relationship will kill the show and the storyline. If I want to have romance {I need to quote myself} I will watch a soap... and that will never happen because of that "OOH I want Brand but he is in Love with Susy yada yada yada" stuff...

Come on... I thought the FRINGE writers must know better: if they want to keep viewers they mustn't try to do "a romance" between 2 leading-role characters.

Remember: it did killed the X-files because it became at the end a soap-opera and people got tired of it....

**Now you may be me up, Scotty!!! :shiny:

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[Meegs82]

Absolutely, but it has to evolve naturally.

[Rekka]

Really? lol I liked the X-files pairing in the end... :haha:

[19ana89]

I do! :D

[jlo10131121]

From Mutsie:

"Come on... I thought the FRINGE writers must know better: if they want to keep viewers they mustn't try to do "a romance" between 2 leading-role characters.

Remember: it did killed the X-files because it became at the end a soap-opera and people got tired of it...."

*****

I don't think X-Files' death had to do anything with the fact M/S hooked up. It was because DD left and then we were left with HALF the main team - Gillian/Scully. The other two tried to pick up the slack, but people got fed up because they weren't Mulder and Scully. He sure as heck wasn't David Duchovny. THAT was the reason the series went down hill. David left and the storylines just got stupid. If you look at the ratings for those last two or three years, you'll see that when DD came back, ratings soared, left - dropped. And I can think of only one ep where DD wasn't in that I actually watched, when Scully (at the beginning) was talking/writing to her son about meeting Mulder for the first time, how she felt, when she missed him. THAT was a great ep.

If the writers have a delicate balance between the 'will they/won't they' and the plot/story lines, then great, but that is a test of their writing skills. By no means do I want P/O to hook up right this second. Bones is doing it skillfully, keeping that balance, while moving the relationship incrementally forward. I eventually want them to get together, but not right now. I enjoyed the kiss, but was surprised as hell about it. It wasn't expected, at all. Next year, I'm sure we'll get the game of, (once we get OUR Olivia back), 'pretend-that-never-happened, and things will go back to status quo, but the kiss I'm sure will still linger in their minds. Both of these characters have a lot of issues - Peter with trusting Liv after finding out she knew about him, Olivia because of John and her mom and God knows what else. They're very guarded people and we saw that in the kiss - the way Peter didn't pull her in with BOTH arms, the way Olivia almost reached with her right hand for the back of his neck to draw him closer, but didn't, worried he'd pull back, it'd ruin the moment.

Eventually we'll all get our ending, but right now, I'm quite content with watching them develop individually and grow. The success of X-Files was the friendship and relationship of the two main leads, yes, but it wouldn't, we wouldn't have loved them so much if CC and Co. didn't develop the characters so well that we fell in love with who THEY were individually FIRST, and not who they were when they were together.

[The_war_is_already_on]

These characters are into each other, and they both need what the other brings....Its great they have agknowledged that......but

Releif doesnt come without tension, and working for something makes the fruit so much sweeter. Plus they are both troubled anyway. So theyll fully hook up near the end I think.....

And unlike so many other shows, it will be a satifying character arc, because these two are better actors that ross and racheal, or scully and mulder - they have like the whole trio, a real on-screen chemistry. Perhaps a bit like some of losts character tie ups, I think the romance aspect will be full satisfying in the end, rather than downplayed and avoided like x-files was...

So, yeah id love to see them hook up. All soppy like almost!, but not just yet. We dont want to turn this show entirely soap like yet, and couples that actually hook up, either make for bad drama, like affairs and such, or bad comedy, like dharma and greg. Stories are about conflict resolution (tension, growth, resolution), thats the core. As such, the 'climax" (lol, if they near the end olivia and peter make passionate love) should always be towards the end...

[19ana89]

I agree! I don't want them to hook-up JUST YET... I do eventually, just not now... I watch Chuck and since the main guy (Chuck) and main girl (Sarah) are officially together, It's a little different. I think I'd prefer them to be together at the end of the series rather than now... Kinda kills the show that way IMO... I'm glad they hooked up, I am, but it was too soon. But as fro Fringe, I like the kiss scene. I'd like to see more, but I think it's still too early to have them officially hook up yet...

[Kind_of_Addicted]

From Mutsie:

"Come on... I thought the FRINGE writers must know better: if they want to keep viewers they mustn't try to do "a romance" between 2 leading-role characters.

Remember: it did killed the X-files because it became at the end a soap-opera and people got tired of it...."

*****

I don't think X-Files' death had to do anything with the fact M/S hooked up. It was because DD left and then we were left with HALF the main team - Gillian/Scully. The other two tried to pick up the slack, but people got fed up because they weren't Mulder and Scully. He sure as heck wasn't David Duchovny. THAT was the reason the series went down hill. David left and the storylines just got stupid. If you look at the ratings for those last two or three years, you'll see that when DD came back, ratings soared, left - dropped. And I can think of only one ep where DD wasn't in that I actually watched, when Scully (at the beginning) was talking/writing to her son about meeting Mulder for the first time, how she felt, when she missed him. THAT was a great ep.

If the writers have a delicate balance between the 'will they/won't they' and the plot/story lines, then great, but that is a test of their writing skills. By no means do I want P/O to hook up right this second. Bones is doing it skillfully, keeping that balance, while moving the relationship incrementally forward. I eventually want them to get together, but not right now. I enjoyed the kiss, but was surprised as hell about it. It wasn't expected, at all. Next year, I'm sure we'll get the game of, (once we get OUR Olivia back), 'pretend-that-never-happened, and things will go back to status quo, but the kiss I'm sure will still linger in their minds. Both of these characters have a lot of issues - Peter with trusting Liv after finding out she knew about him, Olivia because of John and her mom and God knows what else. They're very guarded people and we saw that in the kiss - the way Peter didn't pull her in with BOTH arms, the way Olivia almost reached with her right hand for the back of his neck to draw him closer, but didn't, worried he'd pull back, it'd ruin the moment.

Eventually we'll all get our ending, but right now, I'm quite content with watching them develop individually and grow. The success of X-Files was the friendship and relationship of the two main leads, yes, but it wouldn't, we wouldn't have loved them so much if CC and Co. didn't develop the characters so well that we fell in love with who THEY were individually FIRST, and not who they were when they were together.

ita :tiphat:

[Alijg]

I'd like to see Olivia and Peter together but as others have said, not just yet. Whenever character's get together in an early season I always fear the complications that could arise and tear them apart; which is why I'm a little worried about where things are going to go from here now that Peter and Olivia kissed.

I agree with the fact that David Duchovny leaving is what killed The X-Files. I loved that show and as soon as he left, I stopped watching. It's hard to watch a show that you've loved for so long when they decide to switch up the main cast. Mulder and Scully are what made that show for me. Once they brought in Doggett and Reyes, it just wasn't the same.

[martisco]

If Peter and Olivia do eventually do the deed, you know darn well a baby is going to be involved. (As Walter warned them... "Condoms don't always work!") The writers won't be able to resist the implications of a half-OurWorld, half-OtherWorld child.

And, since this is Fringe, Olivia doesn't even need to be preggers for that long... or even AT ALL!

[Rook]

I loved the kiss scene, and I don't think it will kill the show that they're together. The next season is probably going to be about Olivia on the other side, and she probably won't even reunite with Peter for a while. And I think a baby might be okay, but it would probably be really bad for the show if it wasn't written well.

[schnzr]

I loved the kiss scene, and I don't think it will kill the show that they're together. The next season is probably going to be about Olivia on the other side, and she probably won't even reunite with Peter for a while. And I think a baby might be okay, but it would probably be really bad for the show if it wasn't written well.

I don't think it would kill the show either. With as much emotional baggage as P & O both carry, I think they could be "together" without it just being an "everyone lives happily ever after/the end" type scenario. They would have their ups and downs, and I think the show could do a lot with that as part of the many storylines that it currently carries.

[CarlaMouth]

I've never considered P/O as a "will they/won"t they" line. Fringe is not a show which introduces 2 characters playing cat and mouse (is that expression correct? :what:).

When I watched Jacksonville, I found the almost-kiss scene quite... incongruous. I clearly wasn't expecting. However, actually, I believe that Peter and Olivia will end together, and I would like it.

After the season finale, I told myself "How did we get there :confused:".
Well, they have gradually gained the other's trust, they revealed things of themselves and they finally realised that they were part of each other's whole life. Hence the line "you belong with me" Olivia used to declare her love to Peter. I find this even stronger, it means "without you I can't be".

[Joana]

I wouldn't like to see them getting together for quite a bit of time I think. They need more to their relationship than what they have now. It would seem kind of forced, just like the kiss in the finale was.

[CarlaMouth]

I wouldn't like to see them getting together for quite a bit of time I think. They need more to their relationship than what they have now. It would seem kind of forced, just like the kiss in the finale was.

I agree with you.
The problem of the season finale is that everything seemed hastened...

[-CatarinaBranco]

I wouldn't like to see them getting together for quite a bit of time I think. They need more to their relationship than what they have now. It would seem kind of forced, just like the kiss in the finale was.
I don't think it was forced at all, and I think that it was right on time, the development was really good.

[Montecito]

It would seem kind of forced, just like the kiss in the finale was.

i agree that the kiss was very forced.. it was just out of place..

[-CatarinaBranco]

i agree that the kiss was very forced.. it was just out of place..
I don't think so, it was very well put for me :)

[Joana]

^you're a Benchwarmers fangirl... of course it looked well put for you :P

just like I'm a total Stairsteppers freak and most people think Nina/Broyles is a no-no.

[-CatarinaBranco]

I respect that shipp, Joana . I don't say anything like that about Nina/Broyles because I don't really shipp it .

[fallinlovewithfringe]

I don´t have a problem with the Peter/Olivia pairing. But I don´t have a problem when the things will maybe change and Olivia have a relationship with another character in the end!:P
In my opinion another Olivia pairing would be an interesting surprise.:happy15:

[Omniscient_Jay]

I wouldn't like to see them getting together for quite a bit of time I think. They need more to their relationship than what they have now. It would seem kind of forced, just like the kiss in the finale was. I didn't quite buy that kiss either. :what:

It was better than the Jacksonville Incident (which was arguably unnecessary), but ever since that episode, there hasn't been any more substantial growth (that I can recall) between Olivia and Peter romantically, hence the reason the finale kiss was rather hollow and out of place.

Ideally, I would have them realize down the line that they truly do need each other, but necessarily in a romantic way (Think "profound friendship" in this instance).

For they are stronger together than they could ever be by themselves. :happy15:

[adprest]

Wouldn't it be interesting if Peter ended up with the Olivia from the same universe as him? It'll be interesting how the writers will explore the relationship between Peter and the "other" Olivia (who he thinks is his Olivia) throughout Season 3...I could see a possible romantic triangle evolving (even though the other Olivia has a boyfriend) and I could definitely see one of the Olivias being killed in S3 or S4 finale, which is very interesting. Having "parallel" universes allows the writers to kill off a main character (hence, creating a very tragic death) without really killing her off because she has a double. Having an alternate universe is pure brilliance by the writers...too bad that was never explored on LOST.

[martisco]

I don't think the writers would ever kill off "our" Olivia. The producers have stated that they see the hero-characters as being our original three. However, they might someday permanently merge Olivia and AltLivia (perhaps the two worlds have to be brought back into phase somehow; perhaps all the doubles someday wind up being combined into single characters). But that's just one possibility of many.

I could see them killing off AltLivia, but I could also see Peter having permanent feelings toward her, whether she dies or not. It depends on how well their personalities match, I suppose.

Peter and Olivia also have possibilities as a couple, particularly if there is some sort of "destiny" (Red boy, Blue girl) thing going on. That's a neat idea, too. However... screen romances are best when they are (a) drawn out, and (b) when there is a forbidden element about them.

That's the problem I have with Peter and Olivia currently. No one is standing in their way. No one is telling them NOT to get together. No one is actively keeping them apart (although Olivia is stuck over there right now, that's not because anyone particularly wants to keep her from Peter). That is a little bit boring. Inject a little forbidden fruit in, and they will suddenly get more interesting ("No, Olivia! You must not fall in love with someone from the Other Side! If you have sex then the universe will be annihilated, etc etc" that sort of thing)

Of course, Walter has been egging them on all this while, so he's either going to have to shut up or change his mind about it. :-)

[Rook]

I didn't quite buy that kiss either. :what:

It was better than the Jacksonville Incident (which was arguably unnecessary), but ever since that episode, there hasn't been any more substantial growth (that I can recall) between Olivia and Peter romantically, hence the reason the finale kiss was rather hollow and out of place.



I'll admit that the Jacksonville almost kiss was a little rushed, but there had been a lot of growth between them before Jacksonville (I'm a Benchwarmer so I pick up on these things). There wasn't much romantic growth between them after that because of the secret Olivia was keeping from Peter. But when Peter left, olivia realized that she really did have romantic feelings toward him so the kiss in the finale seemed well-placed to me.

[bookworm2342]

I'm with Lisa. I think, with Jacksonville, Peter saw an opportunity and jumped on it. I've always felt that Peter was more aware (accepting?) of his feelings for Olivia than she was of her feelings for him. Olivia didn't become completely accepting, I don't think, until after Peter left. She fought them more than Peter did.

[Fenella]

It's funny how we never talk about this stuff in the benchwarmers thread. :haha:

[bookworm2342]

*giggles*

[Rook]

It's funny how we never talk about this stuff in the benchwarmers thread. :haha:

:haha: Well the benchwarmers thread is mainly for squeeing and chatting about random topics. Kind of like a general chat thread.

I'm scared that Peter will spend a lot of time with Alivia, and then once he finds out it's not the right one he'll still like her better than our Olivia. Then he probably won't want to be with Alivia, but he also might not want to be with Olivia. As much as I want them to get together, I don't think Partnershippers (is that what you all yourselves, or do you prefer A/P?) should be upset because Peter and Olivia kissed. I hate to say it, but it'll probably be a while before Olivia and Peter become close to starting a romantic relationship, if they ever end up together :(

[adprest]

While I think Peter will develop some feelings for Altlivia and he might feel like he has more in common with her (i.e. being from the same universe) I think she will fall for him more than he falls for her and when it is finally revealed that she is not "his" Olivia he will get very angry at her. He'll feel like she betrayed his trust and will want nothing to do with her. However, this is Fringe, so in the end anything can happen!!

[TheOtherMe]

I def feel like Olivia and Peter grow stronger together...

IMO Reality A Olivia is good for him. --I think before the Fringe division Peter was some what unstable not committing to any one thing for very long. --Part of the reason I think that is has to do with both the nature of what Peter saw his parents go through, but then an even deeper sense of not belonging "here", which now has to do with the reveal of him being from a different universe.

I think the duality of Olivia's which would then also parallel the duality of the comparison of the 2 universes represent those 2 people that Peter himself has struggled to be.

I think he is torn being the resourceful guy that helps those in need, or the guy who is politically driven and recognized by others--but this need to not stay in one place may also then be because he knows on a deep level that someone has always been out there looking for him...and he, Walternate, wants to use him to satisfy his fears...

All in all I am rooting for Peter and Olivia -A! ---I think it would be a shame for them not to come together again at some point. From the beginning I felt like that is the way it should be and I am happy at the pace-y it has been evolving.:P

[quarteralien]

I voted yes. Honestly, on the most basic level for me, it's difficult to watch two young attractive people star in a show and not wonder about their eventual relationship.


From Mutsie:

"Come on... I thought the FRINGE writers must know better: if they want to keep viewers they mustn't try to do "a romance" between 2 leading-role characters.

Remember: it did killed the X-files because it became at the end a soap-opera and people got tired of it...."

*****

I don't think X-Files' death had to do anything with the fact M/S hooked up. It was because DD left and then we were left with HALF the main team - Gillian/Scully. The other two tried to pick up the slack, but people got fed up because they weren't Mulder and Scully. He sure as heck wasn't David Duchovny. THAT was the reason the series went down hill. David left and the storylines just got stupid. If you look at the ratings for those last two or three years, you'll see that when DD came back, ratings soared, left - dropped. And I can think of only one ep where DD wasn't in that I actually watched, when Scully (at the beginning) was talking/writing to her son about meeting Mulder for the first time, how she felt, when she missed him. THAT was a great ep.

If the writers have a delicate balance between the 'will they/won't they' and the plot/story lines, then great, but that is a test of their writing skills. By no means do I want P/O to hook up right this second. Bones is doing it skillfully, keeping that balance, while moving the relationship incrementally forward. I eventually want them to get together, but not right now. I enjoyed the kiss, but was surprised as hell about it. It wasn't expected, at all. Next year, I'm sure we'll get the game of, (once we get OUR Olivia back), 'pretend-that-never-happened, and things will go back to status quo, but the kiss I'm sure will still linger in their minds. Both of these characters have a lot of issues - Peter with trusting Liv after finding out she knew about him, Olivia because of John and her mom and God knows what else. They're very guarded people and we saw that in the kiss - the way Peter didn't pull her in with BOTH arms, the way Olivia almost reached with her right hand for the back of his neck to draw him closer, but didn't, worried he'd pull back, it'd ruin the moment.

Eventually we'll all get our ending, but right now, I'm quite content with watching them develop individually and grow. The success of X-Files was the friendship and relationship of the two main leads, yes, but it wouldn't, we wouldn't have loved them so much if CC and Co. didn't develop the characters so well that we fell in love with who THEY were individually FIRST, and not who they were when they were together.

Totally agree. The X Files is often held up as an example of a show that went on far longer than it should have. It might have been better if it had ended three maybe four seasons earlier.

I like Fringe's pace so far. :hope:

[LovinSha]

I notice that the same arguments against Peter and Olivia seem to be coming up again are how this ship is compared to Mulder and Scully from The Xfiles.

I dont really consider "it's been done before" a very viable argument as to why two people should or should not get together. To me, it all comes down to chemistry and writing.

The only minor things that have hurt the Peter-Olivia ship a bit are that it seems to come off a bit obvious from conception (heck even when I was watching the previews before the series even aired, I was thinking they'd get together :haha:) and that people are quick to look at Peter-Olivia in the same matter as Mulder-Scully (mainly cause of their shows). But if you actually watched both shows you will find (aside from the gruesome crimes they investigate) that the stories and characters are written quite differently from one another.

The thing with Mulder and Scully in The XFiles was that it was never intended. Chris Carter wrote these characters without any romantic intention in mind. The show was a formulaic by the week crime sci fi that was more about the crimes and less about the characters themselves. The story goes that fan demand was what finally pushed the writers to ship Mulder and Scully. But bad timing and difficulty to incorporate the ship into the storylines was what hurt both the ship and the show.

Fringe on the other hand is written with a deeper serial aspect behind it. It's less about the crimes and more about the relationship between the three central characters. I'm convinced that Peter-Olivia romance was intended to be part of the overall story on the same level as the father-son relationship between Peter-Walter and the whole scientist-experiment past relationship between Walter-Olivia. I guess this is why I wasnt big on The XFiles as I am on Fringe. I just find the dynamics and backstories on this show to be far more interesting.

Fringe's pace has been pretty good and the Alter storyline is something that's going to make the Peter-Olivia situation a lot more challenging but a lot more interesting.

Just be grateful the relationships on this show arent written like they are on Bones. :P

[bookworm2342]

I cringed as soon as I thought of it. I like Bones, but if they did the same thing in Fringe I don't think I'd watch the show.