The Mass Equation!!!

[233610987]

This was an amazing episode but there are two very significant things that may have been missed.

First is the question that has Newton successfully built the door now? Can he send the soldiers form alter-universe to ours?

Second is probably more important. How do we explain the crossing-overs that have happened in the past in light of the mass equality theory. i mean the likes of Walter, Bell, Alter Peter, Olivia, The Super Soldiers, Newton etc. have all crossed over. So how were these crossings balanced?

[David1902]

My guess is that there is more than one way to cross over. Walter mentioned that the car was from one of the first times they attempted to reach the other side. Maybe this is just the beginning of Newton figuring out how to do it the "right" way.

[VilS]

Well before Olivia crossed there was a crash, maybe showing Alter Olivia died?

I know that wouldn't get rid of Alter Olivia's mass but maybe there's something in that.

[prophecygirl]

i think the balance has a time delay. the buildings in jacksonville had something like 35 hours between them. chances are that the other times the soldiers and olivia etc had gone over, they hadn't been switched long enough that the universe demanded something in exchange.

[Ph8]

i think the balance has a time delay. the buildings in jacksonville had something like 35 hours between them. chances are that the other times the soldiers and olivia etc had gone over, they hadn't been switched long enough that the universe demanded something in exchange.

I beleive you may be on to something here, if you remember back Bell was keeping track of time when Oliva went over. He said its time to go, we also have Walter saying that the next occurance would happen in the next ~35 hours.

Also whos to say there havent been "switches" going on. Missing people occur all the time. In the case of wen people cross over and stay over moist likely all well here of is a missing persons case.

[Montecito]

Alter Peter

I think when alter Peter came here the body of dead Peter traveled over there.

[dg5301]

I agree with that. It seems like it would be a nice, tidy explanation.

[ahm911]

walter said a couple episodes ago that peter has already died once... and asterid asked him abt it, so my theory is his his research into other universes helped bring another copy of peter over... plus another ref in this episode that the car in the mit experiment was not the first time a doorway was opened!

[dg5301]

Yes, Walter brought the Peter we know over from the other reality. We're talking about whether there was a direct trade in order to satisfy the "balance rule" that was presented in this episode.

[HalcyonDaze]

If that's the case then where do the Observers fit in? They were involved somehow, and in August they said it was to fix something they caused. My current working theory is now that They somehow caused original Perter's illness, so to fix it they told Walter where he had to be to get another Peter; ie be at this Lake at this time and you can cross over can get another peter that is supposed to drown. Further, I think it was the Observers who actually made that initial bridge. They are simply better at it than Newton, and so where able to defer it much longer, but he will inevitable snap back (hence the observers warning of prices and Walter's belief that they will someday come and take peter away. So Walter then bought a beach house to be close to that initial breach and study it, and the cosmic ripples of that are that the two dimensions are now aware of each other and destined for collision

[dg5301]

I'm hoping we'll learn a lot about what happened at the lake, and hopefully get a clear picture of what the Observer's role was, in the next episode. I'm cautiously optimistic after seeing the preview.

[luinthoniel]

I think when alter Peter came here the body of dead Peter traveled over there.

I don't think so. I also do not think the balancing rule applies to human beings due to the fact that their decisions shape their own universes.

Car for a car.
Building for a building.

How do you explain the people taken from the other side to this world? You don't think people from this universe would just disappear out of nowhere and be transported to the other side.

How do you explain the shapeshifters and people who can transfer from one to another?

A rule in formulating scientific theories suggests that if one assumption would falsify the entire theory, reject that assumption. The transportation of human beings from one side to another would just falsify the balancing rule; henceforth, discard that part and just claim that the rule only applies to non-living things.

[doremi123]

I'm a bit confused, if it need mass equation, then when Peter cross over to world now, who replace his place in alternate world then?

[Uber Jalemon]

What if the mass balancing was not a natural phenomena ? what if it's a tech problem ?

Look at it this way : exporting a mass to an alternate universe leave you with excess energy ! A lot of it (e=mc2) And to dissipate it you need to import a mass. Small difference in mass is probably manageable by the machine. On the machine side the 2 events, export/import are simultaneous. But on the target universe there is a delay between the 2 because of the distance sideway in time between the 2 universe. The distance sideway in time is then half the delay.

The targeting system of the machine not being perfect, the exported/imported object/being are left slightly out of sync with the targeted universe. They are unstuck in time thus the shimering