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honghey
05-21-2010, 08:06 AM
Do any one hate that scene and want to remove that scene from ur memory?
It just too fast!
In same season we got the nearly kiss and actually kiss scene!!!
NO!

honghey
05-21-2010, 09:37 AM
dude!~how come here are so many benchwarmer in here --
did anyone actually don't like that scene, like me?

Obyron
05-21-2010, 09:40 AM
Hey, you made the poll. Don't ask the question if you won't like the answer. ;D

honghey
05-21-2010, 09:42 AM
I just wonder am I the only one @.@

Ph8
05-21-2010, 09:44 AM
Hey, you made the poll. Don't ask the question if you won't like the answer. ;D

May it was thier alterself hacking into thier account and posting as if they were two people? LOL!!!! :haha:

this kiss was fine for me either here or there no matter to me....It was the reason behind the kiss that mattered. Olivia finally gave in and said she "belonged" with Peter. They were finally able to express thier feeling for eachother in this special time where Peter was deciding on possibly destroying a universe. It wasnt Walter or anyone else, it was Olivia that made the decision easy for him....

Benchy
05-21-2010, 09:45 AM
Honghey

haha you should probably checkout the antishipper thread, they might agree with you. I think it was poignant and fitting for the current situation.

honghey
05-21-2010, 09:49 AM
Honghey

haha you should probably checkout the antishipper thread, they might agree with you. I think it was poignant and fitting for the current situation.
actually, I am doing a non offical shipper to antishipper ratio survey:haha:

Benchy
05-21-2010, 09:51 AM
:haha:

I liked the kiss, not as a PO-Shipper but as someone who's writing scripts, the way the romance didn't dominate the episode was fantastic. It was fit in perfectly and wasn't just some reunionkiss...

honghey
05-21-2010, 09:53 AM
when they kiss...I foresee in the future (that is our olivia is back) ..
there will be a lot of hugging, make love and kissing scene...
which I wont wanna happen in fringe

Obyron
05-21-2010, 09:56 AM
I thought the kiss was well done, but I'm not a P/O Shipper. I just don't care that much about whether or not they hook up.

Watch
05-21-2010, 10:59 AM
dude!~how come here are so many benchwarmer in here --
did anyone actually don't like that scene, like me?


Yea, me.

I didnt like it.
For me, it just didnt fit into the whole scenario.

Also it looked strange with Peters one arm....why didnt he "use" it somehow?
Seemed that he wasnt in that kiss as Olivia was:ninja:

Joana
05-21-2010, 11:10 AM
I don't care, really. Especially because it wasn't Benchwarmers per se, it was Peter and Bolivia. Doesn't matter if it was fast or not, it just wasn't Benchwarmers.

Obyron
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
The kiss was pretty clearly our Olivia. We see her knock out Olivialt with the... whatever that thing was, and then we see her dyeing her hair and faking her way through the conversation with Alt Charlie. She even pumps him a bit for information, asking if there are any leads and so forth. There's no way the Liv in that scene wasn't our Liv.

Rebe
05-21-2010, 11:33 AM
Yea, me.

I didnt like it.
For me, it just didnt fit into the whole scenario.

Also it looked strange with Peters one arm....why didnt he "use" it somehow?
Seemed that he wasnt in that kiss as Olivia was:ninja:

Maybe Peter is still pissed at Olivia? Think of all the circumstances that led up to the kiss. I don't think Peter is really up to any kissing right now. His father wanted to use him to destroy the world, his father kidhnapped him and he meets two Olivias. He has a lot on his mind. From peter's POV, i would think Olivia is just doing this just to get me to come to the alternate universe. She also kept this secret from Peter for weeks which probably ticked Peter off even more.

I sure wasn't expecting "fireworks" when they kissed. But I did scream when they kissed cause it came out of left field.

BTW, a kiss is a kiss no matter if they are touching or not. :haha:

Joana
05-21-2010, 11:38 AM
The kiss was pretty clearly our Olivia. We see her knock out Olivialt with the... whatever that thing was, and then we see her dyeing her hair and faking her way through the conversation with Alt Charlie. She even pumps him a bit for information, asking if there are any leads and so forth. There's no way the Liv in that scene wasn't our Liv.

there has to be a moment when they exchanged identities.
Considering the moment she is with Peter she can't do that without getting caught, I think the only time it could happen was while she was with Charlie, before getting to Peter.
Maybe Charlie realised it wasn't Bolivia.

KaiserChicken
05-21-2010, 11:40 AM
Yep. Clearly the shifting moment was the explosion with Bell.

Joana
05-21-2010, 11:41 AM
Yep. Clearly the shifting moment was the explosion with Bell.

oooh that's a good one!

jordoo
05-21-2010, 11:46 AM
Maybe Peter is still pissed at Olivia? Think of all the circumstances that led up to the kiss. I don't think Peter is really up to any kissing right now. His father wanted to use him to destroy the world, his father kidhnapped him and he meets two Olivias. He has a lot on his mind. From peter's POV, i would think Olivia is just doing this just to get me to come to the alternate universe. She also kept this secret from Peter for weeks which probably ticked Peter off even more.

I sure wasn't expecting "fireworks" when they kissed. But I did scream when they kissed cause it came out of left field.

BTW, a kiss is a kiss no matter if they are touching or not. :haha:

I also thought Peter was still mad at Olivia, he even asks her how long she knew and you can tell in her answer that she knows he's mad but she finds the resolve to tell him the most important reason that she wants him to come back. He's still mad but when Olivia tells him that he belongs with her and kisses him, he doesn't go all out on the kiss but he knows she is right, doesn't argue and kisses her back.

Bowers
05-21-2010, 01:46 PM
yeah when Liv used the gernade bolivia captured Liv and started to pretend to be Liv.

Thats when the switch happened. which is well after the kiss.

Watch
05-21-2010, 01:48 PM
Maybe Peter is still pissed at Olivia?


Thanks, thats what I thought but which I couldnt put in proper english:P

FlyingSpaghettiMonster
05-21-2010, 02:06 PM
I have to say that I LOVED LOVED LOVED the kiss, even though I'm a reluctant shipper and even though y'all thought it was awkward. But the scene that I thought was just as good, maybe even better, and showed more about Peter and Olivia's relationship than the little kiss, was when Real!Olivia shows up at Peter's apartment with Charlie. She drops the code word (Observer) for Peter to know that it's really her and his friends are there to help him and in one motion, like they were a well-oiled telepathically linked machine, she takes that bottle and swings it around without any warning and Peter just knows to get the bleep out of the way as quick as possible (those quick reflexes of his!!) and she cracks Charlie in the head. That scene was so awesome!!!!

Arctic Fox
05-21-2010, 05:12 PM
She drops the code word (Observer) for Peter to know that it's really her and his friends are there to help him and in one motion, like they were a well-oiled telepathically linked machine, she takes that bottle and swings it around without any warning and Peter just knows to get the bleep out of the way as quick as possible (those quick reflexes of his!!) and she cracks Charlie in the head. That scene was so awesome!!!!

I agree; that was class! And then the whole "Peter it's me!" and his "Yeah I got that" :haha:

Ok, I'm a P/O shipper, and I really liked the scene. Thought it fitted in really well and was pretty appropriate considering everything that's happened.
Howeverrrrr I thought it was a lil soon for the "you belong with me" line. I know I know I know they're good together, and I want them together, but it felt a little... well, rushed. Maybe that's just me. I just don't feel there's enough between them to warrant that statement yet. But then at the same time, I was delighted when she said it. So hey!

Rook
05-21-2010, 05:54 PM
I loved the kiss scene! only thing that annoyed me was that it didn't last longer and the camera angle could have been better. I wanted to be able to see Peter's face during the kiss too, not just Olivia's.

Rebe
05-21-2010, 06:03 PM
Howeverrrrr I thought it was a lil soon for the "you belong with me" line

Not necessarily, it depends on how long Peter was away and also Olivia was really depressed and even drinking. It could have weeks.

theskipper
05-21-2010, 06:14 PM
well i liked the kiss and i liked how she just came out and said it... but it was a odd time for it... and where she is now... that makes it upsetting...

Montecito
05-21-2010, 06:17 PM
No. It didn't fit.

Rook
05-21-2010, 06:26 PM
No. It didn't fit.


I think it fit perfectly. Olivia wanted to be with Peter, as we saw at the end of Jacksonville, but then she found out he was from the other side. The only reason she isolated herself from him was because she had to keep that secret, and when he left she was distraught. She was really upset about his leaving, and she was the one who convinced Walter to get him back. I think that maybe the Jacksonville almost kiss was a bit rushed, but this kiss seemed to fit perfectly.

Rekka
05-22-2010, 12:35 AM
I was trying really hard to contain my excitement because I was watching the episode after midnight...but it was very difficult. I'm still very squeely about it!! I really love how Olivia initiated it, too. That was a huge emotional moment for her, given her "difficulty" with relationships. NOW WE NEED SEASON 3, like NOW!!

Point
05-22-2010, 01:01 AM
I thought it was a little bit too soon, but not by that much. I would've preferred if they had that kiss after this whole Peter-extraction mission is over and such (though of course this wouldn't actually work seeing how Olivia is trapped over there now). Also, I voted yes by accident because honghey, you started your question in your post by "Do you hate" but started the question in the poll by "Do you like" so I voted the wrong one :P

aliv
05-22-2010, 02:11 AM
I think it fits perfectly!!!! Come on, our Liv is still on the other side and now Peter knows that Olvia has real feeling for him!!!
How colud discover that on our side there is alt Liv???

1. Alt Liv is sure of self, very sure. Our Liv follow her heart and is not so sure, she is always asking if is it the right thing!!!
2. Our Liv loves Peter (and ther was a kiss: he belongs to her)
3. Alt Liv doesn't know Walter, Nina, Sam, Broyles!!!
4. alt Liv follows orders, our Liv is always looking for something more and she takes initiative

So the kiss is proper becouse the relationship btw Peter and our Liv is rising and Peter knows very well our Liv...
I think that he doesn't use two arms, becouse he doesn't expet a kiss, he realy miss her very much but he wasn't sure that our Liv miss him too...So the kiss was wonderfull and with very deep feelings in it!!!!

This is my opinion.....

yvaine
05-22-2010, 02:59 AM
Ok, I'm a P/O shipper, and I really liked the scene. Thought it fitted in really well and was pretty appropriate considering everything that's happened.
Howeverrrrr I thought it was a lil soon for the "you belong with me" line. I know I know I know they're good together, and I want them together, but it felt a little... well, rushed. Maybe that's just me. I just don't feel there's enough between them to warrant that statement yet. But then at the same time, I was delighted when she said it. So hey!

I have the same sentiments. And I could hear Taylor Swift singing inside my head after I heard that. :D

I think Olivia must be feeling that way since Jacksonville, but it still surprised me because I've always thought Peter would be the first to say something and Olivia still seems distant. But of course, Peter leaving changed everything.

I'm happy about that scene and how we don't really get any real resolution or how we never got back to it afterwards, and then that thing with the Olivia switcheroo happens. There will now be more trials for P/O, and this should at least make Roco a bit happy that the writers are still forcing P/O to "earn it". :P

Mutsie
05-22-2010, 03:03 AM
A) It was to fast;
B) It was way to fast;
C) It was way tooooooooooooo fast....

So basically it was toooo fast in my opinion but nevertheless we should accept it eventhough it made me puke, a little ...

:observer::tiphat:

aliv
05-22-2010, 03:19 AM
A) It was to fast;
B) It was way to fast;
C) It was way tooooooooooooo fast....

So basically it was toooo fast in my opinion but nevertheless we should accept it eventhough it made me puke, a little ...

:observer::tiphat:

Olivia comes on the other side to save/see Peter!!! She realise that she loves him in Jacksonville, but she stop her feeling becouse she knows that Peter was from the other side!!!
When Peter lives she was upset, she was sad, so when she found Peter, her feelings came up. For me is normal that they kiss, was a lot of time that she was looking for him!!!
Peter was mad becouse she doesn't tell him the truth, but he missed her very much, he realise that when he saw alt Liv!!!

So, for me, the scene was perfect!!!!

-CatarinaBranco
05-22-2010, 04:33 AM
Loved it way to go BR , I love you ! :D

tv_maniac
05-22-2010, 04:46 AM
As a shipper it made me happy and really, I don't think it was too fast at all. After so much time and their roller coaster of a life, I think in that very moment they both needed someone.

I do however, understand that maybe it shouldn't have happened then. In both Jacksonville and this episode, the scenes occurred in moments of elevated emotions and desperation.

Yes, it made them now both aware of how they feel about each other, but after everything, maybe they need to 'repair' themselves a bit before diving in and committing themselves to each other when they're not even sure of themselves.

Overall though, I think it was great. It made the ending all the more heartbreaking and I'm sure when they find out they have the wrong Liv, Peter's going to be ten times more motivated to find her.

Avenged
05-22-2010, 01:30 PM
I've absolutely no problem with the scene. I wasn't thinking about whether it was rushed or not. My main issue was whether Peter and Olivia would finally come clean about their feelings for each other, since it's been so obvious that these feelings exist for a long time. As such, the scene worked perfectly fine with me.

Also, I had no problems with Olivia making the first move; I've always pictured Olivia as the "dominant" half of the relationship. Maybe that's 'cause SHE's the FBI agent and he the scientist lol.

Rebe
05-22-2010, 03:32 PM
I really wish people would stop saying how Peter didn't put much emotion into it! Think about the circumstances that led up to the kiss. This is not your usual "Girl loses guy, girl finds guy, girl tells guy she loves and kiss and live happily ever after. This is their first kiss! Give Peter a break, its not like Peter had any practice in the romance lately not to mention, everything that has happened is because of him. Pardon the guy for having a lot on his plate right now. Also, Peter could have just pushed Olivia away you know but no, he actually pulled her in. Think also about timing. Not sure why people were expecting this make-out session with them.

Not to mention, think of Peter and Olivia's characters. They are not exactly the touchy-feely, happy go lucky people. They are too guarded people who have gone through a lot and don't show their weaknesses.

This is their first kiss so they have a lot to talk about.

Not sure why Peter not putting his other hand on Olivia is such a big deal. Some people hug with one hand.

We finally got a kiss, sure it wasn't so romantic since all the drama that's going on right now but we got it.

Think of your first kiss, don't tell me it wasn't awkward. :haha:

smiliee
05-22-2010, 03:49 PM
A) It was to fast;
B) It was way to fast;
C) It was way tooooooooooooo fast....

So basically it was toooo fast in my opinion but nevertheless we should accept it eventhough it made me puke, a little ...

:observer::tiphat:
:haha: You make me laugh.


Okay, my initial reaction was confusion, because I just wasn't expecting them to even reconnect in this episode, much less kiss. Then I was really excited, because I'm a benchie :D

However, I have to say I loved the dialogue leading up to the kiss just as much as the kiss. For Olivia to actually voice her current feelings seemed slightly out of character, but I think it worked really well. She even admitted to him that she had thought of a hundred reasons for him to return, but then I think she realized that the only reason that would be enough to bring him back was that he belonged with her. It showed just how desperate she was to get him back, which I really loved. And it added a whole new aspect of emotion for the end scene.

And I think Peter didn't seem so "into it" because he's still upset. I mean, that was obvious in his conversation with Walter at the end. While he feels the same way (which was evident in that he kissed her back, then pulled her closer when the camera zoomed out...oh, and Jacksonville), I think he still has his reservations about their betrayal, which is understandable.

So overall, I thought it was well done. Aside from that darn angle :P

Rook
05-22-2010, 05:48 PM
I really wasn't expecting a kiss to happen in this episode, because there was nothing even hinting to it in the promo and I thought he would have been mad at her. I was very pleasantly surprised!!

Chromatic
05-22-2010, 09:30 PM
I thought it was a nice little scene. Peter seemed a bit lethargic but apart from that there wasn't anything to complain about. It's two people genuinely caring about each other and finally kissing.

Rekka
05-22-2010, 10:07 PM
The more I watch this scene, the more sweet I think it is. I mean...you can tell how emotional Olivia is...and I just love how she doesn't completely put both arms around him, the one just kinda lingers there on his chest, almost afraid to touch his cute 'n scruffy face. haha Of course, I'm a shipper, so I'm going to love any KISSING scene between them...but heh It was a very sweet and innocent, 'gotta get it off my chest' and 'i can't lose you' sort of kiss. Loved it. How high is the view count on YouTube now?

PAPAYA
05-23-2010, 06:10 AM
Wow how can someone be SO against it? I understand it's not everybody's "thing" but you must admit it was nicely done. If you like the characters and the show you shouldn't have so much hatred for such a lovely scene. Sorry, really don't get it.

guess2010
05-23-2010, 08:58 AM
:happy15::confused0066:

19ana89
05-23-2010, 01:08 PM
I LOVED it, but I do agree it was just a bit too fast... I thought it should have been a more "romantic" situation... (NOT in bed...).

Peterson
05-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Hello all - long time reader, first time posting.


I thought the kiss and the timing was perfect.

Here are my thoughts:
- Think about where Olivia came from. The show starts with an intimate relationship with the now "Human Target" dude. So we know she can love that way.

- She meets Peter. The guard is up but eventually the feeling grow.

- Peter and Olivia seem to be on their way to romance and then she sees him glow. Feelings go on hold.

- Peter is gone. NOW, the only thing that matters is getting him back in her life, her world.


I tell ya, if you have never loved that way you may not understand . I have and while it was many years ago. It was GREAT.

justkickit
05-23-2010, 10:49 PM
Someone else on another forum brought up the contrasts of this scene, with the all most kiss in 'Jacksonville'. In Jacksonville Peter was doing the reassuring to Olivia and Peter was the emotional one. While in this episode it was Olivia that was doing the reassuring and being emotional, while Peter was the one that was in shock and emotionally down.

Both actors did a great job mirroring that scene. It was a great kiss, in that it was not overplayed and was very true to the moment.

chamelean75
05-24-2010, 02:22 AM
I liked the kiss, though Peter's one arm hug looked a bit awkward. I did think that the, "you belong to me line" was a little out of the blue and sorta of cheesy even if they were building the romantic tension for 2 seasons.

But they make a cute couple so I will live with the cheesiness. :P

I think I would have preferred a scene like the one in Jacksonville. I think had they kissed in that scene,...... well, i just thought that the moment was better in Jacksonville.

Quill
05-24-2010, 02:50 AM
No. It didn't fit.
I agree. That, and the line "you belong with me" came out of nowhere. For one, there's been no set up that Olivia has in any way ever thought like that about Peter, particularly that intensely. Maybe if the line had been Peter's and not Olivia's, it would have worked better. Though it's about time Olivia did SOMETHING in regards to their "relationship". As it stands, it's been all Peter. No wonder he just let her do all the work this time. Last near kiss, that's what SHE did.

The whole scene just reeked of forced. I know the writers needed to give Peter a reason to return, but I think the "my father lied to me and only wants to use me to destroy another universe" was good enough.


actually, I am doing a non offical shipper to antishipper ratio survey:haha:

It's a mistake to use the internet as a reliable gauge on what the general public feels. For one, the numbers don't support it. At most 5% of Fringe's viewing audience goes online to talk (specifically give their opinion) about the show. For two, many interviews mention how a P/O hookup is actually against what the general audience seems to want - and they have better access to info than we do.

The ultimate people who know though, would be the showrunners. They get the Q scores.

Benchy
05-24-2010, 03:49 AM
I don't know, I think Olivia was perfectly in character and her actually saying the words 'You belong with me' were a HUGE step for her character to show how far she's come from the JohnScottHeartache etc. Olivia's kept things professional, yes, but her and peter have been growing closer, it's all just been very subtle, which imo is good writing because it doesn't drag the show into the 'romance/drama' category. She's been drinking like heck, she's snapped at Walter a few times, he's on her speed dial, he's her confidant and the only one she opens upto about stuff, i've said this before in other threads and i'll say it again, with Olivia's character its in her actions, the things she does, oh and ofcourse the biggest tell for any woman...she's had bad hair days :haha:...

CapitalLittleBlack
05-24-2010, 11:01 AM
The kiss scene is awesome, but I also feel there are something wrong between them..
Why peter put his left hand in his pocket, and Olivia put her right hand on peter's chest..
I think these are both wrong place where they should put during a fantastic kiss.

Benchy
05-24-2010, 12:15 PM
The kiss scene is awesome, but I also feel there are something wrong between them..
Why peter put his left hand in his pocket, and Olivia put her right hand on peter's chest..
I think these are both wrong place where they should put during a fantastic kiss.

I think on Peters behalf it was meant to be awkward and uncertain, and Liv's hand on his chest was a nod to the musical ep where she fixes his heart...:observer:

justkickit
05-24-2010, 12:18 PM
His hand wasn't in his pocket. There's a black object on the table that blocks part of his hand, but if you look just below that, you see his fingers.

So, his hand was by his side. I wonder if they did it that way for camera angles. It was Olivia's initiated kiss and I think they wanted to keep it that way.

ETA: Agree with what Benchy said, it was supposed to be that way on Peter's behalf. I've read a few reviews that summed up Peter's emotional state beautifully.

king kahn
05-24-2010, 06:49 PM
i was actually surprised we got the kiss at first.

then, story wise it makes sense since now they both know their feelings peter will stop at nothing to get the real olivia back, once he figures out alt-olivia is not HIS olivia.

Peterson
05-24-2010, 09:31 PM
The kiss scene is awesome, but I also feel there are something wrong between them.


I agree with this.

That "something" is probably PETER is bigger than we think. A great love, romance would be great but he is on another level. So I dont see Peter and Olivia doing the happily ever after thing.

19ana89
05-25-2010, 08:56 AM
i was actually surprised we got the kiss at first.

then, story wise it makes sense since now they both know their feelings peter will stop at nothing to get the real olivia back, once he figures out alt-olivia is not HIS olivia.


I hope you're right! I'd love to see that!

Rekka
05-25-2010, 09:02 AM
then, story wise it makes sense since now they both know their feelings peter will stop at nothing to get the real olivia back, once he figures out alt-olivia is not HIS olivia.

I think that's a great idea and would be awesome to see...Peter fighting for something real and meaningful!? Wow, has he changed! But...if he does, I think it will be detrimental to his well-being. Like, if he crosses universes again to save her... I think something even WORSE will happen because of it, to him. Maybe whatever Bell had commented about at the end of the episode will finally come into play.

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 09:04 AM
I think that's a great idea and would be awesome to see...Peter fighting for something real and meaningful!? Wow, has he changed! But...if he does, I think it will be detrimental to his well-being. Like, if he crosses universes again to save her... I think something even WORSE will happen because of it, to him. Maybe whatever Bell had commented about at the end of the episode will finally come into play.

Hey maybe that's where the drama comes from? He literally can't go over again to help save her. That would make for some decent angst, yeah?

Rekka
05-25-2010, 09:06 AM
Hey maybe that's where the drama comes from? He literally can't go over again to help save her. That would make for some decent angst, yeah?

Oh lord, talk about the angst!! My gut just churned even thinking about it. I think he'd go anyway, even if it meant putting his life on the line. After all, isn't that what she had just done for him?

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 09:35 AM
Oh lord, talk about the angst!! My gut just churned even thinking about it. I think he'd go anyway, even if it meant putting his life on the line. After all, isn't that what she had just done for him?

Yup. Oh but then he wouldn't be able to go back! He'd be stuck Over There, and with the Evil Machine of Doom, too! :confused0066:

19ana89
05-25-2010, 10:27 AM
But I thought he couldn't come back to our universe once he went back to the alter-universe? Isn't that what Newton and Walternate said to him?? But he was able to come back anyways...

Rekka
05-25-2010, 10:35 AM
But I thought he couldn't come back to our universe once he went back to the alter-universe? Isn't that what Newton and Walternate said to him?? But he was able to come back anyways...

Maybe that has to do with how difficult it is for people to cross over--I mean, look at the far measures that Walternate had to take to even make it over to our side? Maybe he thought that the same thing would not be possible. That or...he has other plans for Peter on the Other Side that would prevent him from returning, even if he wanted to. Curious. :P

19ana89
05-25-2010, 10:52 AM
Hmm... You make an interesting point...

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 11:13 AM
Yeah, I kinda figured Walternate meant "I won't be able to take you back" or that he was just lying.

19ana89
05-25-2010, 12:02 PM
Well, in that case, I hope Peter saves her or as someone on here said "Peter finds 'the crack' that Olivia tries to open to free herself...

FlyingSpaghettiMonster
05-25-2010, 12:12 PM
Oh lord, talk about the angst!! My gut just churned even thinking about it. I think he'd go anyway, even if it meant putting his life on the line. After all, isn't that what she had just done for him?

I definitely think he'd go and get her, Peter's been putting his life on the line for all of them, even Walter. In TMFTOS, he didn't hesitate to think twice about helping Walter set up the equipment and stayed way past the point of safety. So I don't think he would hesitate at all to go back over for Olivia. The question is, how will he get over????? And didn't walter say in some episode that every time someone crosses over it 'changes a person'?

Peter and Olivia are a tragic pair and both of them are haunted people now. I can't see them having a happy ending... :confused:

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 12:13 PM
I'm pretty sure Peter is gonna be the one to get her out. I think someone else has mentioned this, but I'm mentioning it again: he is the one that freed her from the sinking coffin in Brown Betty, and since that episode is supposed to be heavy on the foreshadowing and symbolism it makes sense.

19ana89
05-25-2010, 12:34 PM
Peter and Olivia are a tragic pair and both of them are haunted people now. I can't see them having a happy ending... :confused:


So are you saying that you don't think they'll ever be together? or Hook-up? Even in the end of the series?

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 01:10 PM
I for one think Fringe will have a happy ending. . . because Ella fixed it. ;)

FlyingSpaghettiMonster
05-25-2010, 01:31 PM
So are you saying that you don't think they'll ever be together? or Hook-up? Even in the end of the series?


My shippery heart wants them to be together in the end, but I don't think it will be as easy as all that. I think we have only begun to see the 'hard times'. But in the end, maybe they will be much closer for it all.

LovinSha
05-25-2010, 03:16 PM
To those who complain the kiss is happening too soon: I've seen TV ships were the first kiss happens waaaaaaaay too fast (like first half of season 1 fast) or way too late to the point where I no longer care for the ship (ex. Mulder/Scully).

In comparison to other Bad Robot ships, Peter & Olivia actually took longer than all the others and the kiss was brief and formal. Nothing crazy or the like, which works considering the serious tone of the show.

In fact, I was 50/50 as to whether or not the P/O kiss was likely to happen in the season finale because the cliffhanger (as I predicted) is now a story gamechanger. Likely Olivia won't be the same character she was the first two seasons and the mytharc is likely to take a different major turn.

So this episode may have been the last oppurtunity for a kiss like this to happen before the whole world gets turned upside down and all. In my opinion...this kiss is perfect timing.

Also you could tell from the personality and tone of voice in that scene that it was the real Olivia. Altlivia wouldn't be able to make a confession like that and and still feel nervous or insecure about it. :P

19ana89
05-25-2010, 03:57 PM
Honestly, I loved the scene, and timing was good... I'll be happy if P&O EVENTUALLY (like at the end of the series even...) hook-up... After that kiss scene, I don't want to be disappointed that they DON'T hook-up.

Gambit
05-25-2010, 05:46 PM
For two, many interviews mention how a P/O hookup is actually against what the general audience seems to want - and they have better access to info than we do.
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That's complete BS

FlyingSpaghettiMonster
05-25-2010, 05:55 PM
All ya have to do is look at the P/O Benchwarmers thread on this site that has like 3,600+ posts and you know that is such BS! Plus lets see a link to what you are referring to! I do want them to hook up, but don't want the 'Moonlighting' effect to happen.

Rekka
05-25-2010, 05:59 PM
The question is, how will he get over????? And didn't walter say in some episode that every time someone crosses over it 'changes a person'?

Yeah...maybe that will be what pushes whatever medical condition Peter has over the board. Maybe he's been okay thus far, but if he crosses so many times it will trigger the instability of his condition--whatever that may be. And then Olivia will feel directly responsible for what's happening to him. Oooh, did somebody say ANGST!?

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 06:17 PM
Yeah...maybe that will be what pushes whatever medical condition Peter has over the board. Maybe he's been okay thus far, but if he crosses so many times it will trigger the instability of his condition--whatever that may be. And then Olivia will feel directly responsible for what's happening to him. Oooh, did somebody say ANGST!?

*Potter Puppet Pals* Angst, angst, angst, angst...

My view of the timing is very similar to how I felt about Jacksonville; it may feel a little rushed, but it will make everything that happens afterwards work that much better.

Rekka
05-25-2010, 06:26 PM
*Potter Puppet Pals* Angst, angst, angst, angst...

My view of the timing is very similar to how I felt about Jacksonville; it may feel a little rushed, but it will make everything that happens afterwards work that much better.

Yes, it's just classic drama. Take one step forward and three back. It's just for suspense! But man is it torture! :haha:

andromeda
05-25-2010, 07:35 PM
i agree

it's too early.

which mean there's a lot of drama next season

:D :D :D

even i love the idea they kiss in finale ahahhaha

19ana89
05-25-2010, 07:51 PM
*Potter Puppet Pals* Angst, angst, angst, angst...


LMAO!!! I love that!!!

(For those of you who don't know what we were talking about...)

YouTube- Potter Puppet Pals: Wizard Angst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD-Huwlg2kY)

I wish September would come sooner! I can't wait to see the premire!

FlyingSpaghettiMonster
05-25-2010, 08:05 PM
All ya have to do is look at the P/O Benchwarmers thread on this site that has like 3,600+ posts and you know that is such BS! Plus lets see a link to what you are referring to! I do want them to hook up, but don't want the 'Moonlighting' effect to happen.


Pardon me, I meant 3,600+ PAGES of posts...!!

That Harry Potter vid was hilarious!

19ana89
05-25-2010, 08:07 PM
Pardon me, I meant 3,600+ PAGES of posts...!!

That Harry Potter vid was hilarious!

The mysterious ticking noise one is my favorite... IMO the funniest.

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 08:20 PM
The mysterious ticking noise one is my favorite... IMO the funniest.

Mysterious Ticking Noise has got to be one of the single funniest pieces of entertainment in existence.

Snape. Snape. Sev-er-us Snape...

19ana89
05-25-2010, 08:28 PM
Mysterious Ticking Noise has got to be one of the single funniest pieces of entertainment in existence.

Snape. Snape. Sev-er-us Snape...

I agree!!

I found the scorse of the ticking! It's a pipe-bomb!!! :lolol::lolol::lolol:

Za Lords Lt.
05-25-2010, 08:45 PM
I agree!!

I found the scorse of the ticking! It's a pipe-bomb!!! :lolol::lolol::lolol:

Yaaaaaaaay!

*boom*

Mwahahahaha. *tap tap tap* Voldemort, Voldemort, oooooh Voldy-Voldy-Voldemort.

Rekka
05-25-2010, 10:47 PM
LMAO!!! I love that!!!

(For those of you who don't know what we were talking about...)

YouTube- Potter Puppet Pals: Wizard Angst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD-Huwlg2kY)

I wish September would come sooner! I can't wait to see the premire!

Wow, that's great! Love the part where Harry's slamming his head against the wall: Angst, angst, angst, angst! Now all we need is a FRINGE Angst puppet show! Ooooooohhh!!

19ana89
05-26-2010, 10:28 AM
LOL! How would we do that??

Za Lords Lt.
05-26-2010, 11:04 AM
LOL! How would we do that??

I have an animation program, actually. I could play around with something, though it make take a while. :)

19ana89
05-26-2010, 11:07 AM
Lucky you. I'm not allowed to have programs like that... There is so much I could do too... :( I think that'd be cool!

Za Lords Lt.
05-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Lucky you. I'm not allowed to have programs like that... There is so much I could do too... :( I think that'd be cool!

Why can't you have any? That stinks.

I've got another animation project I'm doing now, but I'll try and work in some Fringe Puppet Pals on the side.

We need a better name, I think. ;)

19ana89
05-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Why can't you have any? That stinks.

My grandparents are afraid it'll give the computer a virus.
But I will get get a laptop soon... So then I can... :)



I've got another animation project I'm doing now, but I'll try and work in some Fringe Puppet Pals on the side.

We need a better name, I think. ;)

Something a little more creative? That's hard... Nothing I think of really works...

Aqua
05-26-2010, 12:07 PM
The scene was nicely done. I loved it. I think Olivia seeing Alt-Olivia being happy and in a relationship gave her the courage to go for it and just tell Peter how she feels.

19ana89
05-26-2010, 12:10 PM
I think so too... That or she knew she was on the edge of losing him, and she couldn't live with that.

Za Lords Lt.
05-27-2010, 02:51 PM
I MADE THEM! I Potter Puppet-ized the Fringe Characters! I made a new thread over in the Fan Art section so as not to derail this thread too badly. I haven't animated anything, but the rigs are there. You should all check it out, I think they turned out pretty well. :)

19ana89
05-27-2010, 04:22 PM
Ok!

jlo10131121
05-27-2010, 08:45 PM
Ok!

I love your banner, and I have to say, you can see the hesitation in both of them, the guardedness between them, the 'is this a good idea? am i doing the right thing by baring my soul?'

I was very pleasantly surprised by the kiss, actually shocked! absolutely wasn't expecting it. To be honest, I was expecting something along the lines of what Chris Carter did with X-Files, keeping it mostly professional with hints of flirting, until season nine when we finally get resolution. lol.

What I can't wait for is until next season when Peter and 'Olivia' are back in our-Olivia's world. Will he realize she's not who she pretends to be? Will she 'play to' him and they're a couple, with her 'undercover' so to speak, or will she pretend the kiss didn't exist? (And for her, it didn't.) So her aloofness will completely put him off. $50 says he doesn't figure it out for at least five eps.

CaptainSuoivbo
06-15-2010, 05:27 AM
Don't get me wrong I liked the kiss (although peter get your hands out of your pocket when you kiss a girl!), I just hope they don't feel the need to use all the normal tricks to keep them apart. Peter and Altlivia could be interesting if done well though. I kind of hope they don't really focus on that much though. I like the quasi family dynamic they had going.

Still as an x-files and bones fan I'm looking forward to watching a relationship actually developing (unlike bones which seemed to hit a brick wall several seasons ago but that's another story).

justkickit
06-15-2010, 09:26 AM
I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but his hand wasn't in his pocket. It was by his side. You can only see it in stills of the kiss though. The item on the table is blocking part of his hand, so that is why it looks like that.

JB
07-16-2010, 11:19 PM
dude!~how come here are so many benchwarmer in here --
did anyone actually don't like that scene, like me?
I am an anti-P/O shipper, way too predictable a pairing. I was hoping the show would be less formula than to get the two male and female leads together as a romantic couple. It may cause the show to "jump the shark", unless they take a detour from this course.

(9)November
07-17-2010, 01:59 PM
i totally agree, its a bit cliche :joker:

i was hoping peter would hook up with Rachel.
this way though while peter is with alt-Olivia, Rachel and Olivia might have confrontation and when our Olivia comes back they will probably stall them going further for a while.:observer:

fringetwigs
07-17-2010, 10:13 PM
I liked it, I was waiting for the day to come that they would finally kiss!

Elly
07-22-2010, 11:07 PM
bleh I didnt like it!! :sSic_yuk: only because im jealous haha it was super sweet

Chance
07-23-2010, 01:46 PM
I loved the kiss though I do think that her saying "you belong with me" was less about declaring her love for him and more to do with reassuring him. His statement that he didn't belong in her world revealed how lost, used and vulnerable he was feeling and I believe she was reminding him that herself, Walter and Astrid care about him.