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D-Roc
09-23-2010, 04:10 PM
CLUES AND EASTEREGGS
"OLIVIA"
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd357/Fringe-Forum/fringeclues.jpg
Welcome to the clues and eastereggs thread for 3.01 "Olivia".
This is a bit like an treasure hunt for the various clues that are intentionally (or otherwise) built into each and every episode of Fringe.
The clues are mostly visual and provide fun hints and major clues to the bigger picture. ;) If you'd like to play along, please do so by sharing your observations in this thread!
Here are some ideas on what to look out for:
The Observer - usually hidden somewhere in the background of EACH episode.
The blue lights
The "Next Episode Clue" - each episode contains clues alluding to the nature of the following weeks episode.
Any other clues, shout-outs.
*If you want to check out last seasons clues and eastereggs, have a look through our clues library (http://fringe-forum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=101) or the various episode forums.
*Please note. If you know for a fact what the next episode clue is because you've seen the trailer for the next episode or because you have knowledge of upcoming info, you MUST use spoiler tags (for text) as not everyone watches the trailers. This thread is for speculation.
Have fun searching! :happy15:
Temperance
09-23-2010, 09:57 PM
I award anyone who caught the Observer during that ep. It's hard to keep an eye out during such an intense episode. I'll look for him and other clues when I rewatch it. Also, I heard from the Live Chat thread that the glyphs spelled out AMBER.
eveybane
09-23-2010, 10:09 PM
I'm not sure if this is exactly an easteregg, but I thought it was interesting how it was mentioned that Altlivia convinced her mom to paint a room yellow, because she thought it would look cheerful. That's quite a change from our Olivia, who didn't like yellow (or, at least, yellow candy) because she it reminded her of medicine.
balkan197
09-23-2010, 10:20 PM
The glyphs in "Olivia" spell: A M B E R
balkan197
09-23-2010, 10:27 PM
Looks like Vancouver Canucks dressing room
Broyles is standing between Roberto Luongo and Andrew Alberts
theskipper
09-23-2010, 10:41 PM
3301
3+3+0+1=7
33+0+1=34
balkan197
09-23-2010, 10:54 PM
Here is the Observer
AltOlivia's Mom's house... Outside, everything is very green except for one red leafed tree and the red door.
The inside is mostly yellow (even the dog!)
Her alter mom is wearing a blue shirt.
Hmmm... :confused0006:
Edit: Also, loads of "red lights" well Olive rides in the car with Charlie-nate after they leave her alter mom's house!
Here is the Observer
yep, right there in the crowd! during the amber-izing!
good catch!
RETLAW
09-23-2010, 11:20 PM
3301
3+3+0+1=7
33+0+1=34
Hmm. In previous spoiler threads (no longer spoilers) the 3301 on Lee's jacket were theorized as a nod Season 3, Ep. 1 (especially since they were garnered from promo pics prior to the ep. airing and the first 3 was hard to distinguish).
RETLAW
09-24-2010, 01:13 AM
Here is the Observer
Interesting. I have him elsewhere.
Observer in the background when Liv is trying to find the Massive Dynamic Building. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/TJwr6PZWfHI/AAAAAAAANL8/jdqfMQDWr0c/s576/Observer301.JPG
birdandbear
09-24-2010, 01:15 AM
The cab driver's name is Henry Higgins. He
seemed sympathetic to Olivia's plight, and I think some part of him even believed her. If Olivia ends up stuck on the wrong side for awhile, I wonder if he'll end up helping her blend into her new foreign culture, playing Henry to her Eliza.
And speaking of names, Nick Lane and Sally Clark bring to mind Clark Kent and Lois Lane. I've wondered if that was a shout out...
Lots of reflections all over this episode, sometimes patterning across the characters, which fits nicely with some of the promo photos I've seen.
3301
3+3+0+1=7
33+0+1=34
I did a bit of number adding while watching.
She went to the address 655 18th Street (or something)
6+5+5+1+8= 25
2+5 = 7
CaptainSuoivbo
09-24-2010, 02:38 AM
what does the number adding mean?
I have absolutely no idea.
vlada_vvv
09-24-2010, 03:27 AM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6695/fringe00004.png (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/fringe00004.png/)
here we can see two circles: yellow and red ;) and the quite noticeable title: Union street station...
Could this mean that if there were three universes, Yellow and Red would unite against Blue universe?!:confused:
Hah, you can see the advertisement for 'Dogs' on the taxi, too.
I laughed when I first saw that watching the episode. :haha:
Rekka
09-24-2010, 06:14 AM
Numerology is interesting. From Dictionary.com, numerology is the study of numbers (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/numbers), as the figures designating the year of one's birth, to determine their supposed influence on one's life, future, etc. Usually you take all the numeral digits from your birth date (like mine, April 10, 1980) and add them together (4 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 9 +8 + 0 = 23 = 2 + 3 = 5). Numerology turns into a sort of fortunetelling thing like the Western or Chinese zodiac. 5's are supposed to be very energetic & adventurous but very impatient and always need to be exploring something new.
Now, we don't know Olivia's exact birth date, but we've seen her referenced with the number 8 throughout the show... which is interesting why 7 is littered throughout this episode. It's very close to 8 but not quite there.
Numbers have always been present in Fringe. It's just exactly how much weight they carry is still speculation, albeit pretty interesting! Has their been anything OFFICIAL said about numbers on the show?
jophan
09-24-2010, 06:32 AM
The only number I've seen officially acknowledged is 47, which was mentioned in the commentary to "Bad Dreams", IIRC. No significance was explained, just that it showed up here and there, and was deliberate. 147 also is relevant in that it was the death toll on both airplane disasters in S1.
Alijg
09-24-2010, 06:39 AM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6695/fringe00004.png (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/fringe00004.png/)
here we can see two circles: yellow and red ;) and the quite noticeable title: Union street station...
Could this mean that if there were three universes, Yellow and Red would unite against Blue universe?!:confused:
I think it's a yellow and orange circle which are the actual colors of the R and M subway lines in Manhattan/Queens/Brooklyn. Union Street however, I'm not sure is an actual stop.
Kind_of_Addicted
09-24-2010, 07:01 AM
I would see it as The Union Street beeing the place where the Red and the Yellow Universes connected, as if once there, one would be able to cross between those two universes.
I guess this could be one of those cracks between universes, hence the amber- azation!!
ditroia
09-24-2010, 07:57 AM
Here's My EE Wrap Up.
Bolivia's Olympic Medal
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/286/fringe301oliviaolympicm.jpg
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Lots Of Blue at the Base.
1. Holding Cell bathed in blue light.
2. Blue Drugs.
3. Code Blue.
4. Lots of Blue during the escape.
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New Titles
Space:
Wormholes, Singularity
Biology / Genetics / Disease:
Synesthesia, Speciation, Pandemic, Transhumanism, Neural Networks, Reanimation, Biotechnology
The Mind:
Telepathy, Retrocognition
Philosophy:
Transcendence
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Mutation is also seen, just before "observers are here".
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8301/fringe301oliviaobserver.jpg
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Looks like we've already seen Retrocognition, by what they did to Our Olivia.
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Henry's 'Show Me' Card
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9411/fringe301oliviashowme.jpg
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Fly Me To The Moon
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2481/fringe301oliviamoonflig.jpg
Same 'Airline' seen in the pilot.
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The Clothing Store is Called Stephanies
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There is an abundance of Red & Blue balls in the Recovery Room.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4185/fringe301oliviaballs.jpg
Does Silver represent another Universe or the observers universe.
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Chocolate ice cream, Lincoln Lee must be well connected.
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Hmm Lincoln Lee has a Blue Medical Arm Band, Olivia had a Red One.
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Does That Say ROGUE???
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4341/fringe301oliviarogue.jpg
I can also see 993, and a poster for a Reggae singer
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I think the Observer is there when Olivia talks to the Cop, however it's not very clear.
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Red Flash in the taxi after Henry Says 'Well You Coulda Fooled Me'.
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Well you don't see many penny farthings these days. Over here the ystopped being produced in 1893, although there are some enthusiasts.
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A blue flash when we switch over to this side.
Cheers
Dave
jophan
09-24-2010, 09:59 AM
I wonder if the next episode clues will alternate, that is, 301 will have a clue for 303, 302 for 304, etc.
ditroia
09-24-2010, 12:04 PM
Mama Dunhams house is number 302. Also there is a sticker for the wwf, round the side.
https://www.cdproject.net/en-US/WhatWeDo/PublishingImages/WWF%20logo.gif
Cheers
Dave.
SlipKid
09-24-2010, 12:19 PM
Henry and Olivia gassed up at "Shexxon" Which I liked
BClol
09-24-2010, 01:17 PM
The ID of the cab driver is 100225056768. Does it have any special meaning? 10-02-25 is a Thursday, but no Fringe episode was broadcast on that day.
jophan
09-24-2010, 03:11 PM
Take a look at the knocker, if you watched the preview. Otherwise, spoiler! Possible next episode clue.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1285357287 (http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/gillybelly/Fringecap-2010-09-24-20h39m07s41.png?t=1285357287)
Matthew
09-24-2010, 03:54 PM
I don't know how much of an easter egg it is, but everytime we go into the alternate universe they mention President Kennedy being alive. This time Kennedy was accepting a post from President Obama to help with something (I couldn't hear the audio) and had to resign from his post at the UN. Before we saw a picture of him on someone's desk and then in the newspaper the first time we crossed over.
jophan
09-24-2010, 04:24 PM
I don't know how much of an easter egg it is...
There was a mention in the Pilot commentary on the S1 DVD that one of the producers is kind of a Kennedy fan, so mentions pop up when he can slip them in.
CapitalLittleBlack
09-24-2010, 06:48 PM
i just want to know the scar on olivia's face, is it that means Bolivia shoot her face?
gillybee
09-24-2010, 07:01 PM
No there was an explosion and it was probably a piece of debris from this that cut her on the face.
CapitalLittleBlack
09-24-2010, 07:48 PM
Thx, yep. if that is ture, how she can survive? and the scar will not at there forever.:happy15:
RETLAW
09-24-2010, 08:31 PM
As a New Yorker I don't believe there is a Union Street stop in our NY Subway line (there is a Union Station) and the color codes for the M and R lines are inaccurate as well so this may well be a clue as to Red and Yellow and "Union".
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4341/fringe301oliviarogue.jpg
What if the Red, yellow "union" is to foreshadow that walternate would not/ will not succeed in colliding Blue and Red but the third universe, yellow.
Matthew
09-24-2010, 08:46 PM
What I find funny is the bicycles attached to the sign that says bicycles attached will be removed and delievered to lost property.
Tritium
09-24-2010, 09:05 PM
What if the Red, yellow "union" is to foreshadow that walternate would not/ will not succeed in colliding Blue and Red but the third universe, yellow.
I seem to remember reading in an official posting from either the cast or the creators that only 2 universes would be featured on the show. I don't have a source for this, as it was a long time ago (circa season 1) but I think it was mentioned. But hey, for all we know that's been changed!
Didn't they also say they wouldn't do any time travel stuff?
Didn't they also say they wouldn't do any time travel stuff?
Yep. And then we got "White Tulip"! I really wouldn't put it past them. :ninja:
robinpiney
09-25-2010, 12:21 AM
RETLAW got the observer - at street level after Olivia walked down into MLK - Eldridge Cleaver park. I love the little twists between the two universes! I wonder if the Cleavers pants actually were popular in the 80's over there?
peterfan11
09-25-2010, 12:44 AM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6695/fringe00004.png (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/fringe00004.png/)
I'm not sure if it was mentioned or someone saw this but, the bikes^ are also red and blue...:confused0006:
babbs
09-25-2010, 10:59 AM
Take a look at the knocker, if you watched the preview. Otherwise, spoiler! Possible next episode clue.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1285357287 (http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/gillybelly/Fringecap-2010-09-24-20h39m07s41.png?t=1285357287)
Ahh, great eye! I would have never seen that.
is it just me (i tend to pay too much attention sometimes) or was that the Titanic that was in the harbor after Olivia's escape?
And what's with "Tom Cruise kicking a on TV?"
also i know that according to the death of rachel in childbirth, there should be no ella, but did anyone else see the small child pictured in the photos on the mantle in Marilyn's house?
just passing stuff along. haven't gotten to go back and watch it all the way thru again yet.
gillybee
09-25-2010, 05:15 PM
Ella could be alive Rachel having died after giving birth, I took the baby picture to be AltLiv and her mum.
RETLAW
09-25-2010, 06:03 PM
Ella could be alive Rachel having died after giving birth, I took the baby picture to be AltLiv and her mum.
Exactly. While I know this has been brought up, just because a mother "died in childbirth" (which was the phrase Bolivia used) does not exclude the survival of a child.
In studying historic figures (including only-children), many pre-1900 people had mothers listed as having "died in childbirth" and obviously they lived.
In the movie "There Will Be Blood" Daniel Plainview gives this excuse as to why his only boy's mother is not there with him. "She died during childbirth." It was not uncommon.
RETLAW
09-25-2010, 06:08 PM
is it just me (i tend to pay too much attention sometimes) or was that the Titanic that was in the harbor after Olivia's escape?
And what's with "Tom Cruise kicking a on TV?"
also i know that according to the death of rachel in childbirth, there should be no ella, but did anyone else see the small child pictured in the photos on the mantle in Marilyn's house?
just passing stuff along. haven't gotten to go back and watch it all the way thru again yet.
It's the "fork in the road" theory that's going on. Different choices were made in the alt-verse so different things have happened.
Eric Stolz is the star of "Back to the Future" (he actually passed on the role in our world). Tom Cruise became a TV star, not a movie star. Nixon stayed president and won a second term (this alternate reality was also used in Alan Moore's "Watchmen") The Twin Towers were never attacked. Gatti's Grand Hotel was built in downtown NYC (in our world it was proposed but the deal fell through). I missed it but perhaps the Titanic never sank over there. It can also be assumed that the Hindenberg Zeppelin disaster never took place there as Airships are an abundant form of transportation (in our world when the disaster happened it basically put an end to the use of dirgibles as transportation deeming them too dangerous). I'm sure there was much more.
Fun stuff.
trishy81
09-25-2010, 07:48 PM
I didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but what is the significance of spelling it "Manhatan"? Does anyone have any ideas on this?
is it just me (i tend to pay too much attention sometimes) or was that the Titanic that was in the harbor after Olivia's escape?
Now I have to re-watch to see if I can spot the Titanic! I was obsessed with all things Titanic when I was a kid. My mom and dad even took me to an exhibit where I got to touch a part of the haul! <~ Astrid:: What those kids must have done to you.
I would love to think that in another universe it made the trip!
Ella could be alive Rachel having died after giving birth, I took the baby picture to be AltLiv and her mum.
Humm, that puts a big hole in my "Ella will reveal Altolivia" theory... But wouldn't there be some hint at her mom's house that she was alive. I would assume she is live with father then. Isn't he kind of a jerk and a horrible father, he never takes care of Ella from what I can tell. :what::(
Here's the harbour shot:
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture12.png
And, I'm not from America, but is this a real vending machine?
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture14.png
And... I found another seven...
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture13.png
I swear I'm not some crazy freak looking for it, I was just going through looking at cool Alterverse stuff and I saw it.
jophan
09-25-2010, 08:25 PM
what is the significance of spelling it "Manhatan"?
It's just an indicator that it's the AU. Spelling of words in English can vary. "Manhatan" was the standardized choice in the AU while it's "Manhattan" here. Think of "color" (American) vs. "colour" (UK).
RETLAW
09-25-2010, 08:27 PM
I didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but what is the significance of spelling it "Manhatan"? Does anyone have any ideas on this?
It's just the alt-verse adaptation of it (the English name for the island was adapted from the Manhattoes, so the English spelling is invented), one of those minor differences "over there".
We first saw it in "Jacksonville", and at the time it was supposed to tip is off that the building pictured was not from our universe but at a glance the casual viewer could have missed it.
http://www.longislanddigital.com/normal_Fringe214-001.jpg
Here's the harbour shot:
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture12.png
Well, it could be the Titanic but I think it's just a freighter ship... :(:confused:
And, I'm not from America, but is this a real vending machine?
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture14.png
LOL yep! A real crappy old one. Now I'm curious what your typical vending machine looks like! :D
trishy81
09-25-2010, 08:50 PM
It's just the alt-verse adaptation of it (the English name for the island was adapted from the Manhattoes, so the English spelling is invented), one of those minor differences "over there".
We first saw it in "Jacksonville", and at the time it was supposed to tip is off that the building pictured was not from our universe but at a glance the casual viewer could have missed it.
http://www.longislanddigital.com/normal_Fringe214-001.jpg
Gotcha. That makes sense. Just when I thought I may have noticed something. *pout*
balkan197
09-25-2010, 09:47 PM
It's the "fork in the road" theory that's going on. Different choices were made in the alt-verse so different things have happened.
Eric Stolz is the star of "Back to the Future" (he actually passed on the role in our world). Tom Cruise became a TV star, not a movie star. Nixon stayed president and won a second term (this alternate reality was also used in Alan Moore's "Watchmen") The Twin Towers were never attacked. Gatti's Grand Hotel was built in downtown NYC (in our world it was proposed but the deal fell through). I missed it but perhaps the Titanic never sank over there. It can also be assumed that the Hindenberg Zeppelin disaster never took place there as Airships are an abundant form of transportation (in our world when the disaster happened it basically put an end to the use of dirgibles as transportation deeming them too dangerous). I'm sure there was much more.
Fun stuff.
And they offer daily flights to the Moon :happy15:
RETLAW
09-25-2010, 10:47 PM
And they offer daily flights to the Moon :happy15:
GlatterFlug!
Flight 627 (Hamburg to Boston) in the "Pilot" episode of Fringe is Glatterflug! Massive Dynamics logo is on their engines.
Glatterflug is also referenced during "In Which We Meet Mr. Jones." The ticket Olivia is holding in the Frankfurt Airport prior to departure have the Glatterflug logo on them.
http://www.longislanddigital.com/glatter.jpg
So, I guess that means GlatterFlug (odd name) exists over here, too. But doesn't fly to the moon.
From the Pilot, you'd kinda assume they were owned by Massive Dynamic, but I suppose they can't be if they exist Over There. Or they are, and Massive Dynamic just has its headquarters somewhere else.
RETLAW
09-26-2010, 01:16 AM
So, I guess that means GlatterFlug (odd name) exists over here, too. But doesn't fly to the moon.
From the Pilot, you'd kinda assume they were owned by Massive Dynamic, but I suppose they can't be if they exist Over There. Or they are, and Massive Dynamic just has its headquarters somewhere else.
It's German. "Flug" means "flight". "Glatter" I believe, and I am not sure about the context, means "smooth" or "slick", "smooth flow".
The first time we saw this airline on our side was the Hamburg, Germany flight in the pilot. So on "our side" it was a fictitious German airline.
I suppose it can exist there as well. After all we have KFC on both sides :happy15:
paladin24
09-26-2010, 03:12 AM
Well, it could be the Titanic but I think it's just a freighter ship... :(:confused:
Definitely not the Titanic. That ship looks like a bulk carrier or tanker with the superstructure far at the stern...Titanic had a proportionally much larger superstructure roughly centered along the length and had four very large, prominent funnels. In addition, the stern of the ship is completely the wrong shape.
redsimmy
09-26-2010, 07:05 AM
When she went to the toilet to cry, alot, and i mean alot (in my opinion) of blue light seeped across the screen. Maybe she knew what was happening? Left herself a clue ... I dunno :S
elektrikpikkles
09-26-2010, 01:16 PM
Didn't they also say they wouldn't do any time travel stuff?
Darn!! There goes my theory that everything in Fringe is time-travel-related!!
:confused0066::(
elektrikpikkles
09-26-2010, 01:24 PM
When she went to the toilet to cry, alot, and i mean alot (in my opinion) of blue light seeped across the screen. Maybe she knew what was happening? Left herself a clue ... I dunno :S
Haha, when I first read this, I thought you were commenting on the copious amount of crying Olivia was doing in that nasty Shexxon toilet!!
I also saw this as a transition for Olivia, where she finally comes to the realization that she is stuck here and going back is no longer a viable option, so she has to make a decision...
I also noticed the flickering light above as she enters the bathroom like her emotions have totally come unglued, and then once she has a good cry, the light is no longer flickering. It reminded me of the flickering overhead light in the Pilot...
jophan
09-26-2010, 01:42 PM
I also noticed the flickering light above as she enters the bathroom like her emotions have totally come unglued, and then once she has a good cry, the light is no longer flickering. It reminded me of the flickering overhead light in the Pilot...
Oh, I like that! Somebody check for code!
This may mean nothing, but I also noticed that at least two of the paintings in BOlivia's apartment were changed. The one on the wall between the bedroom and kitchen was a gray-and-white wavy pattern (http://inadream-caps.com/scifi/displayimage.php?album=286&pos=756) and is now a black bird on a gray landscape (http://inadream-caps.com/scifi/displayimage.php?album=287&pos=1033) with something like a dead tree trunk in the background, and a spiral like a tornado on a yellow background (http://inadream-caps.com/scifi/displayimage.php?album=287&pos=1041) (over Frank's shoulder) replaced a weird abstract (http://inadream-caps.com/scifi/displayimage.php?album=286&pos=906) with ladders/rail tracks and other oddments. I thought it might be a different apartment, but the drapes were the same and some of the furniture. Frank's no housekeeper; it was a mess.
xevious
09-26-2010, 02:22 PM
Here's the harbour shot:
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Peetness/Picture12.png
No, that ship is not the Titanic... it's a tanker/freighter.
But did you notice something peculiar? There's no WTC! I wonder if that's just a CGI goof?
Omniscient_Jay
09-26-2010, 02:33 PM
No, that ship is not the Titanic... it's a tanker/freighter.
But did you notice something peculiar? There's no WTC! I wonder if that's just a CGI goof?
The absence of the WTC could be explained by the fact that the camera is angled in the opposite direction.
That huge thing in the distance appears to be the Statue of Liberty, meaning Broyles and his squad are exploring the shoreline of Manhatan. It could be that the WTC is directly behind them.
Then again, I don't know where Liberty Island is located in relation to the towers, so perhaps it is a error.
prophecygirl
09-26-2010, 05:23 PM
I also noticed the flickering light above as she enters the bathroom like her emotions have totally come unglued, and then once she has a good cry, the light is no longer flickering. It reminded me of the flickering overhead light in the Pilot...
interesting, since her ~powers have been triggered by emotion/fear before... jacksonville! plus she does do the fire thing, so maybe there's that connection to electricity.
or the bathroom is just old as the hills ;)
CJaguar265
09-26-2010, 05:53 PM
And they offer daily flights to the Moon :happy15:
just like Pan Am flights to the moon in 2001: A Space odyssey
:confused0006:I wonder if there any Howard Johnsons on the moon, talking cars, flying cars, or a HAL 9000 computer ? :tiphat::observer:
xevious
09-26-2010, 09:55 PM
The absence of the WTC could be explained by the fact that the camera is angled in the opposite direction.
That huge thing in the distance appears to be the Statue of Liberty, meaning Broyles and his squad are exploring the shoreline of Manhatan. It could be that the WTC is directly behind them.
Then again, I don't know where Liberty Island is located in relation to the towers, so perhaps it is a error.
In our universe, looking at the Statue of Liberty and New Jersey from a ferry south of Manhattan looks like this:
http://lipna.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ferry.jpg
The image shown from Fringe captures a cityscape that is very built-up... but doesn't quite look like Manhattan either, now that I look at it more thoroughly.
This is an archived photo of how lower Manhattan looked before 9/11 with the Statue of Liberty in the foreground, obviously at much closer range than the photo in Fringe:
http://www.tropicalisland.de/NYC_New_York_Liberty_Statue_and_Manhattan_from%20A ircraft_b.jpg
This is the southern part of Manhattan as it appears today, from a north facing view:
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p372822-New_York-Manhattan_from_Staten_Island_Ferry.jpg
I guess we'll just have to chalk up the Fringe shot as showing a different kind of city development than what we have in our universe...
redsimmy
09-27-2010, 07:47 AM
Haha, when I first read this, I thought you were commenting on the copious amount of crying Olivia was doing in that nasty Shexxon toilet!!
Saying that after re-reading my post it does seem as im going to go on about her crying doesnt it? Haha. It symbolising her coming to terms with her staying there I like :)
RETLAW
09-29-2010, 01:58 AM
I guess we'll just have to chalk up the Fringe shot as showing a different kind of city development than what we have in our universe...
I believe we can say Fringe "Manhatan" is developed differently.
The original proposed site of Antoni Gaudi's Grand Hotel (1908) was the same parcel of land that the World Trade Center was eventually built on. The deal fell through on our side and many years later the Twin Towers and the WTC complex was built on the same lot.
In the AU shots we see the Twin Towers and the Grand Hotel next to each other with some distance in between, so it is very likely to infer that the fictional AU Manhattan had developed differently (just as we know Massive Dynamics offices don't exist there, etc.)
CaptainSuoivbo
09-29-2010, 06:54 AM
interesting, since her ~powers have been triggered by emotion/fear before... jacksonville! plus she does do the fire thing, so maybe there's that connection to electricity.
or the bathroom is just old as the hills ;)
also she turned out the lights to stop the bomb in Ability when emotion was running high (unless you think that was peter, personally I think it was Olivia and the cortexiphan)
Rekka
09-29-2010, 07:27 AM
also she turned out the lights to stop the bomb in Ability when emotion was running high (unless you think that was peter, personally I think it was Olivia and the cortexiphan)
Or a mix of both. :D They're much more powerful together than apart!
Grifflicious
09-29-2010, 09:26 PM
http://www.longislanddigital.com/normal_Fringe214-001.jpg
Dealing with the numeralogy of the show i noticed that the building address is 2280 (2+2+8+0=12). now the show deals alot with 7s but now 12 has also made some comebacks. In the sceen where Olivia does the card ticks to Peter he stops her on 7 and 12. there are 12 panes of glass in the theatre dome and 12 observers. Just a thought to you all would be Fringe analist :tiphat:
Or a mix of both. :D They're much more powerful together than apart!
That just made me go, "Awwwwww!" :goodvibes:
Dunhamnator
09-30-2010, 01:14 PM
That just made me go, "Awwwwww!" :goodvibes:
Me too, but I agree; Together they are stronger than apart.
BishopFan
10-01-2010, 10:31 AM
William Bell seems to be popular there, Olivia will try to find him next i think.
WhatsUpDoc1958
05-27-2012, 09:06 AM
The only number I've seen officially acknowledged is 47, which was mentioned in the commentary to "Bad Dreams", IIRC. No significance was explained, just that it showed up here and there, and was deliberate. 147 also is relevant in that it was the death toll on both airplane disasters in S1.
47 is a special number associated with J.J. Abrams TV series Alias.
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