A Theory - Am I Crazy?

[abnospam]

Maybe this has been mentioned before, and if it has, I apologize. I can't keep up with all of the posts.

Anyway...

Consider this. Walternate was so hell bent on revenge for the kid napping of his son that he, himself, staged the quarantined zones and Over There damage. He did this for public support, their votes and government funds he needed to get his revenge. All of this is a setup so that Walternate can get his blood.

Thoughts?

I mean, why is Over Here not have any of this damage when we know people have been to this side? No quarantines, nothing. How could the effect only be one-way? Unless there is no such side effect at all...

[quarteralien]

Interesting...but do we know if there are quarantine zones in other countries as well? Walternate is obviously powerful in the US, but I don't see him being a world power.

I too have wondered why this side didn't suffer nearly as much, and why the pattern seems to be escalating, with the events we've seen only happening fairly recently.

[impulse101]

He did this for public support, their votes and government funds he needed to get his revenge.

Well, we do know that he paints the blue universe as evil, and its inhabitants as monstrous doppelgangers, so I agree with you there.

But I don't think the quarantine zones are a setup... at least, not all of them. In the premiere, they did quarantine the theater where our Fringe team came through, so there is a reason for it: to plug up the spots where the membrane between universes is at its weakest.


I mean, why is Over Here not have any of this damage when we know people have been to this side? No quarantines, nothing. How could the effect only be one-way?

I find that odd as well. Maybe it has something to do with our side having 'broken in' to the red universe, instead of the other way around?

[medoragrace]

I think our side is like the blueprints to the red universe and that is why their side is suffering so much more than ours. I also don't think there is a universe for every decision made though. If there were I don't think the Observers would be so worried about all of the problems because there are other universes that will live on if the right decisions were made.

[abnospam]

to plug up the spots where the membrane between universes is at its weakest.

Yes, this makes sense to me. They plug them up on their own will. Its not necessarily a zone that has radiation effect or something. Seems awfully silly to me. Like the cartoon with the plugging of the holes in the damn and a new one just springs up. Is this really an effective strategy?

This is why I am suspicious. Is Walternate making this out to be so much more evil than it is to get the support he needs for revenge? I wouldn't be surprised if Altivia starts to see there was no ill-will and starts changing sides. Perhaps that is why Newton is in place in the first place - a reminder (or brainwash).

[Mr. Papaya]

Consider this. Walternate was so hell bent on revenge for the kid napping of his son that he, himself, staged the quarantined zones and Over There damage. He did this for public support, their votes and government funds he needed to get his revenge. All of this is a setup so that Walternate can get his blood.


This is an interesting theory - I never thought of it that way. I always viewed Walternate as just being an evil person, and how Walter may have been if he hadn't undergone the operation in "Grey Matters."

In that same episode, when they reattach his tissue, he gets quite nasty with the "How are things on YOUR side" comments, etc. Also notice how in "Peter," Walternate doesn't seem to have any sort of significant bond to Peter, and he gives his silver coin to his mother instead.

[Polka Dot Gene]

I don't know how plausible it is as a theory - but I certainly wouldn't put it past the little git. :haha:

As for other countries - I seem to have a vague memory of something being said about how all of the Pattern events are radiating out from the first point of contact at Raiden Lake and I got the impression then that they haven't spread out too far from that initial scene. At least, not so far. So that would tend to suggest that - for now at least - the Pattern doesn't extend much beyond the borders of the US. Whether that would be the case in the future would be debatable.

[cambrielle]

Well, there may be some in Canada or even Greenland that we haven't learned about just yet.

[crocodilian]

Maybe this has been mentioned before, and if it has, I apologize. I can't keep up with all of the posts.

Anyway...

Consider this. Walternate was so hell bent on revenge for the kid napping of his son that he, himself, staged the quarantined zones and Over There damage. He did this for public support, their votes and government funds he needed to get his revenge. All of this is a setup so that Walternate can get his blood.

Thoughts?

I mean, why is Over Here not have any of this damage when we know people have been to this side? No quarantines, nothing. How could the effect only be one-way? Unless there is no such side effect at all...

Perhaps the damage to the Alternate side has nothing to do with Walter and Peter.

We know that Walter/Walternate were supremely ambitious. We know that kidnapping Peter left Walter a wreck, ultimately non-functional for many years.

Walternate has had decades to work that Walter lost . . . We know that there are forces at work to limit disruptions to some universal/temporal balance (the Observers).

On "our side" they seem to do "clean up" around relatively small discontinuities.

But Walternate seems to have been the author of massive undertakings . . . "Fringe" isn't "fringe" in the Altverse. Its also noteworthy that, having Peter back, his first thought is to use him as a weapon -- this suggests that the loss of Peter isn't some persistent emotional wound.

Seems to me that Walternate has had his own agenda, and that that's driving the damage to their 'verse.

[smebro]

Interesting theory. I think you may be right to a point. I've said it before, I do not feel like Walter is the one to blame for the bulk of the damage to AU. I had thought that most of it was Walternate attempting to get Peter back, but sure, it could be as you say; he's gaining public support by being the only person to know about and have predicted the decay of physics (ZFT) and by propogating the predicted effects.
Good work!