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D-Roc
11-11-2010, 04:33 PM
CLUES AND EASTEREGGS
"6955kHz"
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Welcome to the clues and eastereggs thread for 3.06 "6955kHz".
This is a bit like an treasure hunt for the various clues that are intentionally (or otherwise) built into each and every episode of Fringe.
The clues are mostly visual and provide fun hints and major clues to the bigger picture. ;) If you'd like to play along, please do so by sharing your observations in this thread!
Here are some ideas on what to look out for:
The Observer - usually hidden somewhere in the background of EACH episode.
The blue lights
The "Next Episode Clue" - each episode contains clues alluding to the nature of the following weeks episode.
Any other clues, shout-outs.
*If you want to check out last seasons clues and eastereggs, have a look through our clues library (http://fringe-forum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=101) or the various episode forums.
*Please note. If you know for a fact what the next episode clue is because you've seen the trailer for the next episode or because you have knowledge of upcoming info, you MUST use spoiler tags (for text) as not everyone watches the trailers. This thread is for speculation.
balkan197
11-11-2010, 09:00 PM
Glyph code : DECAY
gabalt
11-11-2010, 09:14 PM
At some point, Astrid shows an old Music pocket with the title: something "A fugue" ... i'm not sure if anyone remembers... could that be the clue to the next episode?
eilcon
11-11-2010, 09:15 PM
It was an album cover Bach...a celebration of fugues. She then played the LP.
empty_encounters
11-11-2010, 09:17 PM
Typewriter Code for Fringe Now: ESCAPE
empty_encounters
11-11-2010, 09:19 PM
At some point, Astrid shows an old Music pocket with the title: something "A fugue" ... i'm not sure if anyone remembers... could that be the clue to the next episode?
In psychology, a fugue is a temporarily amnesiac state. Particularly, a dissociative fugue is when a person temporarily goes somewhere else and takes on a new identity, which they eventually awaken from.
So it might be a clue telling us Ourlivia is fully awakened to her true self.
gabalt
11-11-2010, 09:23 PM
From wiki: " the 17th century,[3] the term fugue has described what is commonly regarded as the most fully developed procedure of imitative counterpoint" = hum... makes me think of the 2 olivias
Also, it could be referring to the fact that our Olivia will be leaving the other universe (In french, Fugue means "to escape").
balkan197
11-11-2010, 09:32 PM
Here is the Observer
Typewriter Code for Fringe Now: ESCAPE
What is a typewriter code? Sorry if this has been discussed before.
Temperance
11-11-2010, 09:34 PM
I think the little tune played during the intro (while the listeners were getting their memories erased) is "The Lincolnshire Poacher," which is a simple melody that had played on a popular numbers station, proceeded by the series of numbers, 0-2-5-8-8.
EDIT: After I re-listened to it, I realized it was actually the "Swedish Rhapsody" number station. A series of numbers is played after a certain tune on the station, but I can't understand the numbers since it's in another language.
balkan197
11-11-2010, 09:46 PM
I think that the observers are the first people
Omniscient_Jay
11-11-2010, 09:46 PM
Here is the Observer
How in the hell was I supposed to notice that? :confused:
You, sir, are a master.:happy15:
What is a typewriter code? Sorry if this has been discussed before.
I'm not exactly sure on which site, but there is an official Fringe-related site where you can enter a code and get a neat little video.
These videos consist of Altlivia visiting the Typewriter room and communicating with Walternate about the differences between both worlds.
The differences are pretty cool, actually. I think there are usually uploaded to YouTube shortly after they appear, so I suggest that you go check them out.
I hope this helps.:tiphat:
RETLAW
11-11-2010, 10:00 PM
What is a typewriter code? Sorry if this has been discussed before.
The FringeNow website has clues you can unlock at the end of the episode. You type in the episode's glyph and it should play a video of Alt-Live at the typewriter writing/receiving a message. Usually the message is vague or fun (last week's was something like: "Polar Bears do exist, sir. And they haven't mutated yet.").
impulse101
11-11-2010, 11:33 PM
"The First People" by Seamus Wiles
"Seamus Wiles" can be rearranged into "Samuel Weiss" :confused0066::confused0066::confused0066:
Xerophytes
11-11-2010, 11:50 PM
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7306/vlcsnap2010111205h48m49.png
Did you see what I see?
Mutsie
11-11-2010, 11:54 PM
"The First People" by Seamus Wiles
"Seamus Wiles" can be rearranged into "Samuel Weiss" :confused0066::confused0066::confused0066:
Yep, I had the same "discover":happy15:!!!!
:observer::tiphat:
impulse101
11-12-2010, 12:03 AM
Yep, I had the same "discover":happy15:!!!!
:observer::tiphat:
I figured it was fairly obvious, since I'm usually terrible at noticing such things =P
impulse101
11-12-2010, 12:07 AM
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7306/vlcsnap2010111205h48m49.png
Did you see what I see?
A glyph!! (seahorse) Nice catch, took me a while!
Butters
11-12-2010, 12:25 AM
Guess what!!!!!!
The author of the 'First People' book - Seamus Wiles Is an anagram for SAMUEL WEISS!!!
Your welcome everybody...
collectivesoul
11-12-2010, 01:33 AM
The tattoo that each member of the Red Fringe Team has matches a symbol on the box they dug up in jersey. Or maybe I am seeing things?
http://i54.tinypic.com/6jpouw.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/r25bar.jpg
Ahh.... I thought I'd seen that symbol before. Does Altlivia still have that tattoo or was it removed? Seems I remember it being removed - by Newton or with his help?
fishbone76
11-12-2010, 04:31 AM
Yes it was removed or at least hidden with a device Newton used.
So it's the first time I recognized yellow light spots in an episode.
the one I remember is in Walters lab when Peter talks to him (between 0:14 - 0:16 u can see it several times)
Has these lights shown up before except from the intro and besides the glyphs?
So was i right with my assumption that the device exists in all parallele worlds?
What if the universes (red, blue, green, yellow) had been one (the white one) before somehow it broke into several.
And the machone is the key to reunite them into one?!
I think OurLivia will come back in one of the next 2 eps.
So if we have 2 Olivias in one world would it cause problems as in; only one of the same can be in one place. If I remember it was probplem in "Time cop"?
According to the film, two instances of the same matter cannot occupy the same space at the same time.
or will OurLivia also travel in time when she tries to come back to our world?
theNomadz
11-12-2010, 05:11 AM
:shhh:
Our shapeshifter (Joseph Feller of 989 Neilson St Bedford 'possible I miss heard some of this info) 'cast listed as Gemini' had multi colored eyes another reference to Bowie maybe or something else ? the actor was in Alias with blue eyes so its gotta be something or a waste of a contact lense.
Anyone also pick up on Olivia damanding he didn't hurt any other innocent people before she killed him. <-- she has got an heart :love0046:
RETLAW
11-12-2010, 12:00 PM
:shhh:
Our shapeshifter (Joseph Feller of 989 Neilson St Bedford 'possible I miss heard some of this info) 'cast listed as Gemini' had multi colored eyes another reference to Bowie maybe or something else ? the actor was in Alias with blue eyes so its gotta be something or a waste of a contact lense.
Anyone also pick up on Olivia damanding he didn't hurt any other innocent people before she killed him. <-- she has got an heart :love0046:
I found the multi-colored eyes interesting (John Noble sometimes has two colored eyes in some shots, though that has been dismissed as a natural phenomena and not an intended clue).
Peter's eyes have been checked by Walter and Bell (for signs of decay?).
There has been much speculation on Peter's condition and genetic connection to the doomsday machine/first people. It was published in a newspaper article seen in "Amber 31422" that he had a genetic illness.
Walter and Bell have often looked into how Peter was "holding up" physically.
xenide
11-12-2010, 09:46 PM
I don't know if this counts, but check out 20:33, behind joseph feller there's the green green green red thing ;)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/lauyongyi/vlcsnap-2010-11-13-11h47m58s249.png
SuZanBare
11-13-2010, 12:41 PM
"The First People" by Seamus Wiles
"Seamus Wiles" can be rearranged into "Samuel Weiss" :confused0066::confused0066::confused0066:
Nice!
dunham
11-13-2010, 02:21 PM
I don't know if this counts, but check out 20:33, behind joseph feller there's the green green green red thing ;)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/lauyongyi/vlcsnap-2010-11-13-11h47m58s249.png
I noticed some GGGR reference too. In that Joseph Feller scene there are reds and greens everywhere in the background, and in the intro, at the japanese/chinese/korean guy's house (I never can tell those three apart).
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6099/gggrc.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/gggrc.jpg/)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8937/36441633.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/36441633.jpg/)
And, in this pic, the piece of paper behind the laptop looks like a sheet music to me. But I guess that's not relevant.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3699/sheetz.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/sheetz.jpg/)
birdandbear
11-13-2010, 02:36 PM
Well, there's that whole music = mathematics thing, as seen in The Equation. Maybe the guy's also a musician and he's been trying to score the numbers somehow. Interesting that sheet music and numbers and Bach should all be seen in the same episode...
livtorv
11-13-2010, 02:56 PM
Notice the sign on the right. It looks like the amber warning sign from OT.
http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae4/wackymack/ambersign.png
Polka Dot Gene
11-14-2010, 01:11 PM
So if we have 2 Olivias in one world would it cause problems as in; only one of the same can be in one place. If I remember it was probplem in "Time cop"?
This may have been an issue in other show/movies - it was a problem in the Stargate universe, too. But there's never been any indication it applies in the Fringe universes - there were two Walters in the Red Universe for a time while Walter was stealing Peter and it didn't seem to have any repercussions.
Albeit it was a short time, so if the producers wanted to make it an issue later, they could say that Walter was in the Red Universe with Walternate for such a short time it wasn't a problem, but that if someone was doubled up in one universe for long enough it would be.
theguedz
11-14-2010, 04:29 PM
The FringeNow website has clues you can unlock at the end of the episode. You type in the episode's glyph and it should play a video of Alt-Live at the typewriter writing/receiving a message. Usually the message is vague or fun (last week's was something like: "Polar Bears do exist, sir. And they haven't mutated yet.").
Go watch Star Trek: Kirk crashes his pod on that ice planet and guess what.. blue light and: Mutated Polar Bear!
klunz
11-16-2010, 12:46 PM
hey guys (and girls ofc) tottaly new here but i wanted to point out that
the numbers the blond mom in the opening of the episode is writing down the wrong numbers. Its a computer voice who speaks Dutch.
1st numbers are 5(thats a bit garbled) 34 17 9 14 8 32 30 27 etc
hope anyone else noticed
(srry for the bad english im dislectic and dutch)
geometric_sum
11-18-2010, 08:55 AM
A few observations:
The number list frequency the pilot turns to before crashing is 6880.0. Like 6955, this is also the ID of a protein coding gene.
Bach's "The Art of the Fugue", the album Astrid puts on for Walter, is a wonderful musical example of patterns within patterns growing in complexity. This is in line with how Astrid views the numbers and eventually breaks the code and with the layered audio wave Walter discovers -- indeed with the entire Fringe story arc itself.
The numbers 17-9-15-8-42-40 are in the "Dark Meets Light" portion of the First People calendar in the Seamus Wiles' (= Samuel Weiss) book. The initial numbers, 12-34 (the only ones I could catch) are in the "Period of Darkness" section. I believe the memory wipe came when the victims heard the Dark Meets Light numbers.
RETLAW
11-18-2010, 12:09 PM
A few observations:
The number list frequency the pilot turns to before crashing is 6880.0. Like 6955, this is also the ID of a protein coding gene.
Bach's "The Art of the Fugue", the album Astrid puts on for Walter, is a wonderful musical example of patterns within patterns growing in complexity. This is in line with how Astrid views the numbers and eventually breaks the code and with the layered audio wave Walter discovers -- indeed with the entire Fringe story arc itself.
The numbers 17-9-15-8-42-40 are in the "Dark Meets Light" portion of the First People calendar in the Seamus Wiles' (= Samuel Weiss) book. The initial numbers, 12-34 (the only ones I could catch) are in the "Period of Darkness" section. I believe the memory wipe came when the victims heard the Dark Meets Light numbers.
Interesting stuff.
I do have to say the more interviews I've read with the producers/writers/actors discussing the creative process of Fringe, I really think they don't delve as deep as we think or plan ahead as intricately as we speculate.
I love speculating about Fringe, and continue to do so, but I really think that fans read too much into the details of the show. Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
I even recall some interviews with Wyman/Pinker where they are asked about some fan theories and they're like "Wow, we didn't even think of that. Was that in that episode? We just thought it would be cool to put that in. That's way deep." or something to that effect.
I also believe they make up a lot of stuff as they go along, and retconn a lot as well. It is still an excellent show with great character development, and superb acting, and a pretty cool mythos (though one not as well-developed and more open-ended than some may believe it to be).
gillybee
11-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Did anyone come up with a clue for tonight's episode?
geometric_sum
11-19-2010, 06:37 AM
I love speculating about Fringe, and continue to do so, but I really think that fans read too much into the details of the show. Sometimes a banana is just a banana. I'll grant that the frequency may be a banana :P , but the Bach reference and the alignment of the numbers with the periods marked on the calendar are too prominent to be ignored given the thematic elements of the episode.
RETLAW
11-19-2010, 06:11 PM
I'll grant that the frequency may be a banana :P , but the Bach reference and the alignment of the numbers with the periods marked on the calendar are too prominent to be ignored given the thematic elements of the episode.
True. Don't get me wrong, I think you have identified some interesting points, but what I'm getting at is that I believe that the producers/writers have less specific intent or "going somewhere" with the story elements and clues they sometimes put in a story.
I arrived at this from 1) analyzing past eastereggs/clues/story details (along with many other Fringe fans) and noticing how many vague or open-ended clues, or even abandoned mini-storylines there have been.
2)I was surprised when I started reading a lot of the interviews with the producers and writers confirmed how much they change or just "wing it".
Sometimes they seem to just put in a bunch of cool stuff in an episode without any major mapped out path and figure it out or let it "play out".
For example they may make an episode and throw in Bach, repeating patterns, oh lets put in an AI with heuristics and fuzzy logic, oh and I read about these number stations, wouldn't it be cool if we hinted at a connection between them and the observers. Ok. Let's write it up.
They may later retconn some of the story elements to fit future episodes and "make sense" in a grand scheme of things, but that "bigger picture" is hardly as scripted out and intricately woven as some may think.
So you may connect the dots and find patterns, and are correct in commenting on them and may have well figured out something greater, but that doesn't mean the writers and producers intended them that way in their storyline or were even aware of them. In fact they comment on how much smarter the fans are and how they at times find great correlations/theories the writers/producers weren't even aware of.
Six-fingered Girl
11-23-2010, 07:51 PM
So you may connect the dots and find patterns, and are correct in commenting on them and may have well figured out something greater, but that doesn't mean the writers and producers intended them that way in their storyline or were even aware of them. In fact they comment on how much smarter the fans are and how they at times find great correlations/theories the writers/producers weren't even aware of.
So, obviously, we fans should all be writing for Fringe! :P All art forms are open to interpretation and each viewer is going to add meaning that the creator didn't put there. Artists love this. No matter how many themes they might try to delve into with their work, someone else is going to find something new. The mistake is assuming that one's personal interpretation is the one the creator intended.
Maybe on some subliminal level, the writers are channeling larger themes that even they aren't aware of. *eerie music*
Albert
11-23-2010, 08:18 PM
Maybe on some subliminal level, the writers are channeling larger themes that even they aren't aware of. *eerie music*
:blue:Ohhh.... I like that idea! The mysterious force of synchronicity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity)directing and coordinating our actions in ways which are beyond our understanding. :observer:
RETLAW
11-24-2010, 07:07 PM
Maybe on some subliminal level, the writers are channeling larger themes that even they aren't aware of. *eerie music*
I think that's exactly it. When they jam-pack some cool topics and fringe sciences into an episode, they may not even have a full understanding of it, but it leads us to explore these topics and make connections and theories. They are setting forth a discussion by merely inserting these topics/mysteries/Fringe science into an episode, even if superficially and without a greater design (I don't think there's always as intricate a puzzle as some people theorize. The writers sometimes have a general direction to go.)
....I do however think that fans try to read too much into finding easter-eggs. Not every little prop in an episode is a message or clue to another episode. Ohh, the handle on the knife in the room was red. It must mean something. Well, sometimes you're just going to get a red handle on a knife. The obsessive nit-picking is fun, but you have to draw a line at reasonable inferences and clues with some substance. Some things we'll never know. (My Andriod phone has an android logo on it's screen. I am not a shape-shifter or a bad robot.).
sweetfringe
12-08-2010, 08:59 PM
a copy of H. G. Wells' book by Markham in the bookstore? H. G. Wells is originally the novelist who wrote "War of the Worlds". Thought that was a nice touch.
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