Romad

[ag86]

OK, so it's plain that Fauxlivia is pregnant with Peter's child. This is not a thread about this plot device's palatability for Fringe fans.

Rather, I had never heard of the term ROMAD before, which are the glyphs from this episode.

On Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROMAD) I was able to find something interesting.

An excerpt:


Slang term describing a group of USAF airmen that were tricked into a job no one else wanted to do.

The USAF is on the hook to supply ground personnel to the US Army in regard to Close Air Support (CAS) operations. No pussy USAF officer (pilot) ever wanted to do this job, although they were tasked with it. Said pussies found a way to have less intelligent USAF officers (Navigators or worse, Weapons officers) do the job for them (see the adventures of Huckleberry Finn). So, what is the significance for this show?

Peter was tricked to sleep with Fauxlivia... Was Fauxlivia tricked to get pregnant? Was this Walternate's plan all along? He doesn't want to hurt children, but bringing more into the "worlds" is part of his machinations? Remember when the chief Shape Shifter told Olivia she wouldn't be able to complete her task because of a moral quandary?

Read the full Urban Dictionary definitions, as it also says that ROMADS later proved brilliant at their jobs and better than the ones originally assigned.

[RETLAW]

OK, so it's plain that Fauxlivia is pregnant with Peter's child. This is not a thread about this plot device's palatability for Fringe fans.

Rather, I had never heard of the term ROMAD before, which are the glyphs from this episode.

On Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROMAD) I was able to find something interesting.

An excerpt:

So, what is the significance for this show?

Peter was tricked to sleep with Fauxlivia... Was Fauxlivia tricked to get pregnant? Was this Walternate's plan all along? He doesn't want to hurt children, but bringing more into the "worlds" is part of his machinations? Remember when the chief Shape Shifter told Olivia she wouldn't be able to complete her task because of a moral quandary?

Read the full Urban Dictionary definitions, as it also says that ROMADS later proved brilliant at their jobs and better than the ones originally assigned.

I always thought Walternate was pushing Fauxlivia to seduce Peter. He may have manipulated the situation better than it appears.

[Beancounter]

It's my guess that Walternate plans on injecting Bolivia's child with Cortexiphan....since he just found out that it doesn't wok well on adults.

[Steiner]

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Rather, I had never heard of the term ROMAD before, which are the glyphs from this episode.
I believe this


Slang term describing a group of USAF airmen that were tricked into a job no one else wanted to do.
is important.Like i said in the Fauxlivia/Frank thread,Fauxlivia didn't had nor the choice nor the alternative for the mission she got assigned to in the our universe.

And also this

Read the full Urban Dictionary definitions, as it also says that ROMADS later proved brilliant at their jobs and better than the ones originally assigned.

Which again in (Fringe) reality proved to be the case.For Walternate's agenda it couldn't gone better.

So i guess you have a winner on the matter of what Romad means.

[Stukov]

I would agree that the romand meaning how Olivia feels that "she is me but better". I also don't think that, I think she is actually BETTER because she has gone through very tough things and come out a very strong person. She just has to learn to get over her own insecurities.

[Jabr]

Read further down on the Urban Dictionary definition and you will see that ROMAD also can stand for "Rough on Mothers and Daughters"...

Perhaps a tip that gender of the child will be female.

[Walteristic!]

Perhaps a tip that gender of the child will be female.

I don't know.. I also don't know about the cortexiphan. Walternate was all worked up about testing on children and he seemed fine about getting Peter on the machine, which according to the drawing, would kill him.

About romad, maybe Walternate knew that eventually she would get pregnant, due to advanced stage their (P/O) relationship was.. maybe was Fauxlivia who got tricked. Plus it's PETER'S child, and Peter's the only one the device reacts to. Maybe someone with his blood...

..But that brings us back to the whole testing on children thing... :what:

[dg5301]

The updated meaning for ROMAD in the military is "Recon Observe Mark And Destroy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROMAD

Either of these meanings could certainly apply to things happening on Fringe, but which is it?

[ditroia]

I believe the Pregnancy was planned well in advanced.

[capri]

OK, so it's plain that Fauxlivia is pregnant with Peter's child. This is not a thread about this plot device's palatability for Fringe fans.

Rather, I had never heard of the term ROMAD before, which are the glyphs from this episode.

On Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROMAD) I was able to find something interesting.

An excerpt:

So, what is the significance for this show?

Peter was tricked to sleep with Fauxlivia... Was Fauxlivia tricked to get pregnant? Was this Walternate's plan all along? He doesn't want to hurt children, but bringing more into the "worlds" is part of his machinations? Remember when the chief Shape Shifter told Olivia she wouldn't be able to complete her task because of a moral quandary?

Read the full Urban Dictionary definitions, as it also says that ROMADS later proved brilliant at their jobs and better than the ones originally assigned.


the definition is quite misleading it's not USAF slang, it's a USAF acronym that means Recon, Observe, Mark And Destroy. In simplistic terms it's the airforce's ground troops whose job it is to coordinate airforce operations, scout and mark targets etc.

In fringe terms it's fOlivia's job in our universe. Recon Observe, Mark and Destroy.

[Matthew]

As much as I think ROMAD is suspicious, I don't think we should be using an urbandictionary post to judge what it could mean. Just sayin'.

[Stukov]

As much as I think ROMAD is suspicious, I don't think we should be using an urbandictionary post to judge what it could mean. Just sayin'.

Without much to go on, it is all we have. Yes people can make up stuff, but so can the writers (make up stuff and put it on urbandictionary).

[Matthew]

Without much to go on, it is all we have. Yes people can make up stuff, but so can the writers (make up stuff and put it on urbandictionary).
Well I think that is a stretch. Especially since that entry was on UrbanDictionary since 2006. I don't think it's a stretch to say that it could mean Radio Operator Maintainer And Driver which is what that UD entry is referring to, but I don't think we should be using the "were tricked into a job no one else wanted to do" part is if it were what the writers intended. If it is, that's pretty poor planning.

[tricked]

As much as I think ROMAD is suspicious, I don't think we should be using an urbandictionary post to judge what it could mean. Just sayin'. I want to see the glyphs spell out "RICKROLL", esp. considering that's how I feel with this plot.

[santa1563]

Acronyms change in the military. Once something is outdated or unused/phased out, they'll reuse the acronym for something else.

In this instance, ROMAD did used to stand for Radio Operator Maintainer And Driver, an everyday enlisted Depot Level Radio Repairman who was filling a detail. Kind of like KP duty or bay orderly. Their job was basically to assist the FAC officer by driving him around Vietnam and Korea and repairing/maintaining the radio equipment (go figure). Since this position wasn't really related to the duties outlined by their AFSC (job code), another one was created specifically to be a ROMAD. Most of the people who were drafted into this new job were people who had already been doing it. A ROMAD and his FAC, together with their jeep and radio, formed a TACP (Tactical Air Control Party).

Since then, TACPs and CCTs (Combat Control Team, a more specialized, ATC version of TACP) have become a highly integral part of combat ops and are usually embedded with Army units, calling in airstrikes and drop zones for supplies/troops, requests for recon, managing austere field ops, etc. A good example of this is Haiti. It was AF CCTs that ran the Port au Prince single-runway airport after the earthquake, guiding air traffic almost equal to that of Chicago O'Hare into a field designed for, at the most, a few dozen planes.

Most TACPs actually take offense to the Vietnam/Korea era ROMAD, they like to think of themselves as far more bada$$, which they are. Nowadays, if you were to ask a TACP what his ROMAD tab patch meant, he'd likely say "Recon Observe Mark And Destroy," as that's closer to his job description. How's that for a military lesson? :P

Sooo...something tells me the writers just used the urban dictionary version...

[dg5301]

This is pretty intriguing. You can make an argument for each of the 3 main interpretations:

Somebody tricked into doing a job they wouldn't have taken. That could refer to Fauxlivia's pregnancy being planned all along by Walternate, even though she probably wouldn't have taken that as her assignment.

Radio Operator Maintenance And Driver. Something relating to the numbers stations? Henry, the Driver?

Recon Observe Mark And Destroy. Fauxlivia's mission to the blue universe? Observer reference? Destruction of the blue universe?

Right now, I'm leaning toward it just meaning the simplest of the three, though I wonder how Walternate could've counted on her getting pregnant without her actively pursuing it as a goal...

[Walteristic!]

Maybe Walternate is tricking Bandonate into testing Cortexiphan on children without Walternate's permission so we wouldn't get blamed..

[jay_eilthabhae]

Ok, here is what I think

If its Radio Operator Maintainer And Driver.........could it be the possible revelation of the man behind every problem we have seen yet??

It says Radio Operator Maintainer And Driver.........So:-

Radio Operator: The one who first sent out the number stations
Maintainer: The one who made the observers to maintain the flow of events as he/she intend it to be
Driver: The one who is driving the war between these two universes, and enjoying the benefits of it from a distance

So, a man/woman who is behind it all????

If its Recon Observe Mark And Destroy, it could once again be about the person who planned it all

Recon: The smallest section of a DNA that can be recombined, so this was the first step of that person....where he took the first people's DNA and recombined it to form someone else or something (I am sorry, I am not an expert at DNA so just making a guess here)

Observe: Then he/she set out observers to do the job of observing the bloodline of First People and anyone related to them

Mark: The supposed last man in the first people's bloodline is Peter, and he was marked by the machine, as we know the machine has started taking control of Peter already, thereby marking Peter

Destroy: Now the final task is to destroy the first people bloodline.....to hoax them into beleiving that the machine is suppose to solve their problems.....the person behind all this is only interested in finishing off the last of the first people.


Just a vague theory from me...anyone wants to elaborate it further???

[jay_eilthabhae]

Ok, here's another theory:-

If ROMAD is indicated to say "Tricked into doing someone else's job"

Could it be that Peter was never meant to operate anything, but because of his genetic issue, for some reason(which I cannot think of right now, could be anything) the Observers knew that he is capable of operating the machine,so that's why "the boy is important"

Observers are asexual inhumans who are prepared by someone else (apart from the red and blue universe) to destroy both these universes, as that particular person does not really want to do this job themselves or perhaps he/she cannot do it....

So, he got the observers to find someone in the history of earth (since they can experience time in the 4th dimension) to find someone who can do this (use the machine), their job to find such a person was to see any abnormal activities or important events (that's why they observe fringe events), so finally when they knew it was Peter, they modified everyone's choice in such a way that Peter ended up thinking that its him who needs to use the machine, while really he does not need to.....

Anyone would like to make this theory better by modifying it?? Or has any comments on it??

[Six-fingered Girl]

So, he got the observers to find someone in the history of earth (since they can experience time in the 4th dimension) to find someone who can do this (use the machine), their job to find such a person was to see any abnormal activities or important events (that's why they observe fringe events), so finally when they knew it was Peter, they modified everyone's choice in such a way that Peter ended up thinking that its him who needs to use the machine, while really he does not need to.....

Anyone would like to make this theory better by modifying it?? Or has any comments on it??

Wow! Way to turn the "Peter's Destiny" plot on its head! I mean, I think this definitely belongs in the list of possible explanations, so thank you for putting it out there. At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if every single one of our major players is just a pawn with a manipulated past, including the Walters. The chess player may be Sam Weiss or someone as yet unknown, but I'm also fairly certain that no one we've seen so far knows the whole story or all the variables involved.

To play devil's advocate: what is the difference between something you're actually supposed to do and something that you and everyone else just adamantly *believes* you're supposed to do?

If the definition of "ROMAD" is taken to be someone tricked into doing another's job, then I think AltLivia is a really good candidate. She's really in deep now, and I'm pretty sure this isn't the mission she signed up for when she joined Fringe Division. It used to be just a job. :what:

[capri]

ROMAD has nothing whatsoever to do with being tricked to do a job, whoever made that urbandictionary post 5 years ago was just being facetious. It means exactly what people have said, a military acronym that used to stand for "Radio Operator, Maintainer, and Driver" in the Vietnam era and now stands for "Recon, Observe, Mark & Destroy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_Air_Control_Party

- ROMADs (Now referred to by the Air Force as JTAC's in training) are communication experts who assist JTACs in the performance of their duties while working to attain JTAC status for themselves. ("Radio Operator, Maintainer, and Driver," a holdover acronym from the careerfield's Vietnam era, when enlisted airmen served primarily as assistants to officer-only Forward Air Controllers, has been replaced in the TACP vernacular with the term "Recon, Observe, Mark & Destroy" in reflection of the modern role of the TACCS)

and this is the basic job description for TACPs http://www.airforce.com/opportunities/enlisted/careers/general/tactical-air-control-party-apprentice-tacp-males-only/

[bbwarfield]

okay... i think "rough on mothers and daughters" would be the best answer.... oddly enough...

I have been wondering since I found out peter was from the other side what the observers would think of him haveing a child, of course that was assuming it was in the blue universe. Peter SHOULD have survived and had children in the red universe but our original peter never had a chance. The observers are extremely worried about "new probabilities". They probly dont care about fauxlivia and peters child... but an olivia and peter would be a child created that NEVER was a possibility. I dont care about a fauxlivia baby... it makes walternate interesting.... but olivias would have tons of interesting side effects.... would the observers allow it? would the child be visible to them as it doesnt exist in a natural future? are all universes moving toward a singularity rather than branching of and this child would stop all that? all sorts of complex story parts arise out of a truly two universe child... especially when peter is specifically only suppose to exist in the other...but by poor management by the observers allowed to be placed in this one.

ROMAD is rough on plural mothers and plural daughters.... my 2 cents

[Walteristic!]

I think "Recon, Observe, Mark & Destroy" is the one that makes the most sense.. for obvious reasons, right?

I mean.. maybe talking about the observers.

Maybe their here/there in a mission or something. Picture this: They come from a universe where the First People were never extinguished, so they're VERY advanced, and for some reason [that they can predict] the universes endanger the existence of theirs. So they came here [maybe from the future, since they easily travel through time] to save their universe.. :what: I don't know tho... :confused:

:tiphat:

[Steel_Arrow]

Thank you for your coments about ROMAD. I am a former ROMAD. What Capri said is absolutely true. It's a tough life, but what a head rush when an air-to-mud fast moving fighter zooms overhead lighting up a target!