Clues & Eastereggs - 3.14 "6B"

[bookworm2342]

CLUES AND EASTEREGGS
"6B"
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd357/Fringe-Forum/fringeclues.jpg


Welcome to the clues and eastereggs thread for 3.14 "6B".



This is a bit like an treasure hunt for the various clues that are intentionally (or otherwise) built into each and every episode of Fringe.



The clues are mostly visual and provide fun hints and major clues to the bigger picture. ;) If you'd like to play along, please do so by sharing your observations in this thread!

Here are some ideas on what to look out for:


The Observer - usually hidden somewhere in the background of EACH episode.
The blue lights
The "Next Episode Clue" - each episode contains clues alluding to the nature of the following weeks episode.
Any other clues, shout-outs.
*If you want to check out last seasons clues and eastereggs, have a look through our clues library (http://fringe-forum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=101) or the various episode forums.
*Please note. If you know for a fact what the next episode clue is because you've seen the trailer for the next episode or because you have knowledge of upcoming info, you MUST use spoiler tags (for text) as not everyone watches the trailers. This thread is for speculation.

[Rook]

The lights on the amber machine thing went GREEN GREEN GREEN RED.

Also, the wife's name was Alice - Alice in Wonderland.

[Omniscient_Jay]

The Observer passed by the couple in the opening scene as they walked down the street to the Rosenkrantz hotel.

I would provide a screenshot, but I have little expertise in this area...

[sweetfringe]

(from Shakespeare's play Hamlet with characters Rosencrantz and Guildenstern,) but probably a nod to Tom Stoppard's existentialist play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead...

From Wikipedia:
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is an absurdist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_the_Absurd), existentialist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism) tragicomedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragicomedy) by Tom Stoppard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Stoppard), first staged at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Festival_Fringe) in 1966.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead#cite_note-Chrono-0) The play expands upon the exploits of two minor characters from Shakespeare's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare) Hamlet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet), the courtiers Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern). The action of Stoppard's play takes place mainly 'in the wings' of Shakespeare's, with brief appearances of major characters from Hamlet who enact fragments of the original's scenes. Between these episodes the two protagonists voice their confusion at the progress of events of which—occurring onstage without them in Hamlet—they have no direct knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead

[CJaguar265]

how do you guys decode the glyphs?

[fringyfanatic]

I have a decoder on my phone. It was a free app. Just type in fringe in the market search, It types the letter for you as you select the glyph.

[Rook]

The glyphs spell HEARTS

[RETLAW]

how do you guys decode the glyphs?
http://www.obsessedwithbuffy.com/FRINGE/glyphs.png

[Stephan]

There was a boquet of white tulips in appartment 6B.

[Mutsie]

Last Glyph Orb had the shape of a heart ^^;!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t291/Loosert/Heart-2.jpg

:observer::tiphat:

[19ana89]

This episode spelled out "hearts" I thought there was one "heart" in the last season "Brown Betty"?

[Mutsie]

...2 hearts {Olive And Alive} loves one mind {Peter} :P...

Sorry, just needed to say this...

:observer::tiphat:

[chamelean75]

can anyone post a screen shot of the observer?

[Mutsie]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t291/Loosert/FRINGE%20screen%20captures/observer6b.jpg

observer screen...

:observer::tiphat:

[chamelean75]

thanks!!!!

[RabidBacon]

When Peter puts the jukebox on 'random' it played 'For Once in My Life'. It's the same song Olivia sung in Brown Betty.

[antelocapra]

(from Shakespeare's play Hamlet with characters Rosencrantz and Guildenstern,) but probably a nod to Tom Stoppard's existentialist play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead...

From Wikipedia:
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is an absurdist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_the_Absurd), existentialist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism) tragicomedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragicomedy) by Tom Stoppard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Stoppard), first staged at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Festival_Fringe) in 1966.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead#cite_note-Chrono-0) The play expands upon the exploits of two minor characters from Shakespeare's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare) Hamlet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet), the courtiers Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern). The action of Stoppard's play takes place mainly 'in the wings' of Shakespeare's, with brief appearances of major characters from Hamlet who enact fragments of the original's scenes. Between these episodes the two protagonists voice their confusion at the progress of events of which—occurring onstage without them in Hamlet—they have no direct knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead

Definitely a reference to Stoppard's play. The play begins with Rozencrantz flipping the coin repeatedly and the result coming up heads over and over, just as Walter did. They arrive at the same conclusion: that the cause of the coin flips might be unnatural in nature. A lot of the play deals with the lack of ability to shape our own destinies.

I also can't help but think that there's a futurama reference in here: In the Farnsworth Parabox episode, the professor invents/discovers a parallel universe in which the key difference is that coin flips have the alternate outcome.

I loved this episode, best of the season so far.

[gillybee]

6 people attending a party on the 7th floor fell to their death last night.

6+7 = 13?

[CJaguar265]

http://www.obsessedwithbuffy.com/FRINGE/glyphs.png

thanks guys

[fringe dork]

The little heart on the last glyph was amazing:D
(Thanks Mutsie for the screenshot!)
When I saw it(a couple of minutes ago!) I was like "Is that a little heart???So cute:D"

[Olive_Dunham]

Funny that this one was episode 3.14
As in...Amber 31422

[happycat]

At the beginning, Mrs. Marcello told the doorman that she was going to the Schordinger Hotel.

There is a thought experiment in physics called "Schordinger's Cat", which is about quantum entanglement.

[happycat]

how do you guys decode the glyphs?

There is a wonderful story called "The Dancing Men" in the Sherlock Holmes Series. This is the idea of how to break the code. There is a one to one correspondace between each glyph and an alphabet. In English, there is no word ending with j nor a word containing something like "uu", "yy".... To implement the so called "Dictionary Attack", we need a computer program. A Fringe fan has already done the above for us. :tiphat:

[Stukov]

When Peter puts the jukebox on 'random' it played 'For Once in My Life'. It's the same song Olivia sung in Brown Betty.

Thanks! Good catch!

[happycat]

Green, Red, Blue and Yellow

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8972/32641401.png

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9814/90122446.png

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/516/52292217.png

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7648/44142416.png


http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/913/36419596.png

[abcde]

how do you guys decode the glyphs?
i use the fringe glyph decoder app on my iphone.. :)

[Dana Hale]

There was a boquet of white tulips in appartment 6B.

Also in the beginning when that couple is walking to the apartment building they pass a sign on a store front for Tulip Market, or Tulip something...have to look at it again.

[happycat]

Also in the beginning when that couple is walking to the apartment building they pass a sign on a store front for Tulip Market, or Tulip something...have to look at it again.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1720/53031089.png

[JustThinking]

I printed out the glyphs when I found them- so I have the sheet while watching.

[sweetfringe]

At the beginning, Mrs. Marcello told the doorman that she was going to the Schordinger Hotel.

There is a thought experiment in physics called "Schordinger's Cat", which is about quantum entanglement.

But it's ironic you wrote about it happycat. In the experiment, depending on the observer, (and his or her point of view) the cat either lives or dies.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Schrodingers_cat.svg/320px-Schrodingers_cat.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schrodingers_cat.svg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schrodingers_cat.svg)




Wikipedia: Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment), usually described as a paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox), devised by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger) in 1935. It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation) of quantum mechanics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics) applied to everyday objects. The thought experiment presents a cat that might be alive or dead, depending on an earlier random (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_indeterminacy) event. In the course of developing this experiment, he coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement)).


It's fitting considering last night's episode...considering the elderly couple...


But also ironic that you posted about Schrödinger's Cat, happycat :P.


In the experiment:



From Wikipedia: A cat, along with a flask containing a poison and a radioactive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive) source, is placed in a sealed box shielded against environmentally induced quantum decoherence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence). If an internal Geiger counter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger_counter) detects radiation, the flask is shattered, releasing the poison that kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition). Yet, when we look in the box, we see the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

[Olive_Dunham]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5458642519_5903633c5c_z.jpg

Check out the lights ^

Remind me of the pattern....probably there to accentuate or emphasize the connection between this potential vortex and the bus incident...a pattern event

[Andyy]

Funny that this one was episode 3.14
As in...Amber 31422

I think you could be on to something here. Good catch!

I'm afraid if you're right, maybe episode 3.22 won't be very pleasant for our universe either (or maybe 4.22 but that would be a long shot).

[RETLAW]

Last Glyph Orb had the shape of a heart ^^;!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t291/Loosert/Heart-2.jpg

:observer::tiphat:


This episode spelled out "hearts" I thought there was one "heart" in the last season "Brown Betty"?

I believe the executive producers said this episode doubled as a sort of "Valentine's Day" theme, so that makes sense (with the obvious themes of love and union in the episode).

And, yes, the glyph code for BB was "HEART", referring to the metaphor of Peter's power source in that episode. Here we have the plural "HEARTS" for the union of P/O.:happy15:

[queenbeesteph]

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1720/53031089.png


There was a boquet of white tulips in appartment 6B.

I saw both of these things and wondered if put together, they would somehow be a clue. What was the white tulip reference again? Walter needed a sign from God? and what is "tulip food" - bonemeal, right?

[theNomadz]

This is why I love the series, just that subtle little :love0046: change for one episodes glyph is awesome. Thanks clue hunters for tipping it I'd not noticed it myself.

One I picked up just after Peter & Olivia go to the bar, was a silver statue what looks like its holding either a ring or the world. Peter maybe or another Wizard Of Oz tin man reference about not having an heart.
http://i55.tinypic.com/fyg0nt.jpg

[WlatersPancake]

I checked out tulip meaning, and most of definitions say that tulip express perfect love. Maybe it also was a Valentine's Day special.

[jophan]

In "White Tulip", Walter said they stood for forgiveness. I don't know whether that's a common connotation or a private one for him/his family.

[capri]

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1720/53031089.png


what's funny is the name of the store changes the next day from Tulip Foods to Victory Food Market

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/300/tulip.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/tulip.jpg)

[RETLAW]

In "White Tulip", Walter said they stood for forgiveness. I don't know whether that's a common connotation or a private one for him/his family.

WALTER: I had never believed in God. But it occurred to me... that my actions had betrayed him and that everything that had happened to me since was God punishing me. So now I'm looking for a sign of forgiveness. I've asked God for a sign of forgiveness. A specific one, a white tulip.

ALISTAIR PECK: Tulips don't bloom this time of year -- white or otherwise.



WALTER: But he's God. And if God can forgive me for my acts then maybe... it's in the realm of possibility that my son, possibly, may be able to forgive me too.



what's funny is the name of the store changes the next day from Tulip Foods to Victory Food Market

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/300/tulip.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/tulip.jpg)


Good catch.:happy15: Only reinforces the notion that the "Tulip Market" sign was an intentional prop, and they seemed to overlook the detail (or just didn't cover the sides of the awning) in shooting this scene.

[Walteristic!]

Good catch.:happy15: Only reinforces the notion that the "Tulip Market" sign was an intentional prop, and they seemed to overlook the detail (or just didn't cover the sides of the awning) in shooting this scene.

Or the episode starts in the other universe!! :confused0066: Like Jacksonville :confused0066:

[MYOB]

Wiki shows the director as Thomas Yatsko, who also directed The White Tulip.

[capri]

Yes white tulips, in floral terms, are the "forgiveness" flowers. And I m sure this episode symbolized Olivia finally "forgiving" Peter for the fOlivia mess. The white tulips made an appearance when Olivia was talking to Alice

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/300/white_tulips.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/white_tulips.jpg)

And by the way, somebody must like tulips cause there's some red ones in the dinner party apartment

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/300/red_tulips.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/20/red_tulips.jpg)

[lolsusl]

One I picked up just after Peter & Olivia go to the bar, was a silver statue what looks like its holding either a ring or the world. Peter maybe or another Wizard Of Oz tin man reference about not having an heart.
http://i55.tinypic.com/fyg0nt.jpg

Could you explain that to me?

Because I am almost certain that it was "just" a replica of the Atlas statue they have at Rockefeller Center (Wikipedia for double checking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_statue))

Sure we could go as far as saying that Peter carries the world on his shoulders because he can decide the faith of both universes. But actually I think that it's just nice piece of art.

[capri]

Could you explain that to me?

Because I am almost certain that it was "just" a replica of the Atlas statue they have at Rockefeller Center (Wikipedia for double checking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_statue))

Sure we could go as far as saying that Peter carries the world on his shoulders because he can decide the faith of both universes. But actually I think that it's just nice piece of art.

That whole corridor outside 6b is full of pictures of pre war NYC buildings, I assume that's just a picture of the Rockfeller center.

[lolsusl]

That whole corridor outside 6b is full of pictures of pre war NYC buildings, I assume that's just a picture of the Rockfeller center.

Nevermind, you're right.
It is a picture of the statue in front of the Rockefeller Center. Which makes way more sense because I had no idea how they would fit in a replica given the rather small corridors.

[Walteristic!]

Why would they fill a corridor with pistures of pre-war NYC buildings? I mean.. could be a clue, I don't know..

[Laura.sj]

I loved this episode's mention to quantum entanglement. There's a scene when Broyles asks Bishop about it, and he answers that it's a tricky business... So funny because the physicist who actually studied those "spooky interactions" was John Stewart Bell, who inspired the creation of William Bell in the series.

[Amy]

I saw both of these things and wondered if put together, they would somehow be a clue. What was the white tulip reference again? Walter needed a sign from God? and what is "tulip food" - bonemeal, right?

I'm pretty sure the White Tulip reference is the clue for next week episode

[RETLAW]

Or the episode starts in the other universe!! :confused0066: Like Jacksonville :confused0066:

Funny thing is I was looking for something along those lines.

When Park Slope, Brooklyn came up on screen (an area I am quite familiar with) its spelling looked "off" to me at a glance (although it was spelled correctly). I immediately thought of the Manhatan opening in "Jacksonville".:happy15:

[real1]

The window in the kitchen had an drawing with color red/blue when Peter and Walter at the kitchen for the breakfast and then when Olivia and peter were at the kitchen and kissed .. the drawing's color yellow/green/red .

any idea for that ?

[capri]

The window in the kitchen had an drawing with color red/blue when Peter and Walter at the kitchen for the breakfast and then when Olivia and peter were at the kitchen and kissed .. the drawing's color yellow/green/red .

any idea for that ?

you 're just confusing things I think ... the stained glass is exactly the same in both scenes

[TheOtherMe]

Definitely a reference to Stoppard's play. The play begins with Rozencrantz flipping the coin repeatedly and the result coming up heads over and over, just as Walter did. They arrive at the same conclusion: that the cause of the coin flips might be unnatural in nature. A lot of the play deals with the lack of ability to shape our own destinies.

I also can't help but think that there's a futurama reference in here: In the Farnsworth Parabox episode, the professor invents/discovers a parallel universe in which the key difference is that coin flips have the alternate outcome.

I loved this episode, best of the season so far.


Also I thought about Alice Merchant's name.

Alice may be a really mild nod to 'Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass...'

But back to Shakespheare, Merchant may be nod to "The Merchant of Venice".

It's one of the few plays of his that I really know nothing about, except that I do think it is about making choices between women through much deception...

There is also "The Merchant of Venus" , A pun to Shakesphere's play. It is a game about exploring a part of of unexplored Galaxy in which awakens a galactic civilization. The players trade (***make exchanges***) goods in order to reveal things about the missing civilization...

[Wyx]

If someone would grab a cap of Alice Merchant's carry bag - it has a tulip and something else - a butterfly I think -- on it. She puts it carefully down on the table so it's clear to see.

[RETLAW]

If someone would grab a cap of Alice Merchant's carry bag - it has a tulip and something else - a butterfly I think -- on it. She puts it carefully down on the table so it's clear to see.

Looks like a fish (vertically oriented, it's head visible in the shot) to me. I suppose it can be a butterfly wing, hard to get good ss.

http://www.obsessedwithbuffy.com/FRINGE/merchantbag.jpg

[capri]

It's a flower and a butterfly, doubt it's of any particular significance

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/300/flb.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/flb.jpg)

[RETLAW]

It's a flower and a butterfly, doubt it's of any particular significance

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/300/flb.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/flb.jpg)

That's one ugly decorative butterfly.

[Lij]

Perhaps, but why put a fish on a bag with a flower?

[capri]

and once again .... you are confusing yourself, they are IDENTICAL
red center, then blue, yellow, green

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/403/glassth.jpg


PS don't link files in other fansites, upload whatever files you need in free image hosting sites like imageshack etc

Here's a higher resolution grab that might help you out

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/300/glass2.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/glass2.jpg)

[RETLAW]

Perhaps, but why put a fish on a bag with a flower?

It's an Asian thing. I've personally seen decorative carp/koi on food packaging in Brooklyn. I thought maybe she hit up an Asian market, not uncommon in NYC.

Anyway it's a somewhat drab looking butterfly so I was wrong.

[real1]

and once again .... you are confusing yourself, they are IDENTICAL
red center, then blue, yellow, green

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/403/glassth.jpg


PS don't link files in other fansites, upload whatever files you need in free image hosting sites like imageshack etc

Here's a higher resolution grab that might help you out

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/300/glass2.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/glass2.jpg)

:)

but you can notice in the first pic the blue and red .. but in the second blue and yellow green ????

I don't know how to upload pic :ashamed0001:

[crocodilian]

"When there's something strange, in your neighborhood, who you gonna call?"

Lot of excellent Ghostbusters references in this episode.

Art Deco New York architecture? Yup
(No suitable location in Vancouver, so they referenced it with the photos of Rockefeller Center in the building hallway)

Bubbling Green Fluids with minds of their own?
http://picload.org/image/aporar/vlcscreensnapz00.jpg

Check underground building plans? Yup
Mad Scientist with a handheld detector? Yup

http://picload.org/image/apawpa/vlcscreensnapz00.jpg

One puzzling thing. Noticed a lot of blurry, blinking lights behind Olivia and Peter in their street scenes (the shallow focus makes sense as they were presumably shooting wide open for light). But many of the lights had their top halves "clipped". I don't know that I've looked as carefully at anything else as I have at Fringe, but I don't remember seeing this before-- anyone know how this happens?

http://picload.org/image/apawpi/vlcscreensnapz00.jpg

[gillybee]

http://picload.org/image/apawpa/vlcscreensnapz00.jpg



Did anyone else notice that Walter used the Geiger counter like a priest would when they are douching the holy water or whatever it they do (I'm not catholic) as if he was carrying out an exorcism.

[crocodilian]

Did anyone else notice that Walter used the Geiger counter like a priest would when they are douching the holy water or whatever it they do (I'm not catholic) as if he was carrying out an exorcism.

There were some religious horror ghost story references in this ep, "Rosemary's Baby" came to mind when Alice opened the curtains just a crack to peer out.

Also the long down-the-darkened hallway shots towards an eerily lit room, the darkened interiors with heavy curtains-- that's a trademark Polanski shot.

But "Ghostbusters" is the primary reference, IMO. Alice is dressed a bit like the "librarian ghost" from Ghostbusters, and kind of sounds like Annie Potts, forty years later.

Both Ghostbusters and Rosemary's Baby have an "otherworldly" baby who's going to change the world . . .

[austeane]

What happened in minute 22?
Amber 31422 might be a reference to the twenty second minute...

[kloe]

It's a flower and a butterfly, doubt it's of any particular significance

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/300/flb.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/21/flb.jpg)

I was thinking that in addition to being one of the glyph clues that they sometimes hide within the show, that maybe it's also a reference to the butterfly effect where a seemingly small action or event can cause a massive ripple effect.

Eg. Alice was holding on to Derek, and therefore almost caused a vortex. Or on a microlevel, the tossing of the coin led to Derek's death which led to Alice causing a vortex with AltDerek :confused0006:

[opekta]

Olivia knocked on the Peter's door 8 times (her lucky number)

[MYOB]

After The Firefly, makes sense it could be more of that. But the standard symbolism of butterflies (metamorphosis, transition, resurrection) fits well enough, too. Unfortunately, the effect was ruined by the network. In the outdoor scene, the bag was hidden behind a Fox program ad.

[capri]

I have the downloaded file from itunes (which is were the screenshots i posted came from) ... it doesn't have network branding as you can see and the only time the butterfly is really visible is that frame I posted. The outside shots are kinda blurry, but the funny thing I did notice is Alice was checking Peter out when their paths crossed :))

Anyways, like I said IMO it's just a shopping bag, no particular significance

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/24/300/outside1.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/24/outside1.jpg)

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/24/300/outside2.jpg (http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/ne/neshtar/2011/02/24/outside2.jpg)

[WhatsUpDoc1958]

Number shout-outs to J.J. Abrams shows:

47: Alias, Picture of Agent Sydney Bristow appears on page 47 of 400 year old manuscript by Rambaldi.
4,8: Lost
8: Olivia (?)

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