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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekka View Post
    I've posted my theory on this before, but I kinda lost where I had put it. But I think it has something to do with the bloodline. For example, before Peter Jr. came into being, Peter was the last descendant of the immediate Bishop family, which is why the machine "accepted" him. But now that the baby has been born, Peter has a successor who will carry on the role that was originally meant for him; whatever specialness Peter might have had, I think is gone, migrating over to the baby as the last descendant.
    I love that idea. It makes perfect sense and seems to me the only way that whole DNA mess could be fixed. I cannot believe the writers would leave that gap.

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    But I thought Peter was special because Walter "tunned him" when he was a child..

    If you accept the descendant idea then you will have to explain why the machine works that way..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj07 View Post
    I wonder if this hasn't been mentioned already b/c it seems so obvious, but isn't Walternate being an idiot? He uses the blood/Peter's DNA to activate the machine. OK, fine. But without an actual consciousness or mind to CONTROL the machine, what good does that do? IMO all he's managed to do is turn on a doomsday machine, but there's nothing directing it what to do. Therefore, it seems to be set on auto-destruct: vortexes start appearing in the Blue Universe, heralding its destruction, but at the same time nothing in the Red Universe is improving.

    As to why Peter couldn't get into it? Maybe b/c of the missing piece. Or b/c it already started without him?
    I have a problem with this too. The machine was built to hold a full person, so how does a test tube of partial DNA start the machine? Sam talked about Peter vibrating at a certain frequency and that would help determine what the machine does. Walternate and evil Brandon are taking a huge chance with their world too, activating the machine without a consciousness to direct it. This would have been a good time for September to interrupt Walternate in an experiment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyri View Post
    But I thought Peter was special because Walter "tunned him" when he was a child..

    If you accept the descendant idea then you will have to explain why the machine works that way..
    We still have two episodes to go.

    And I don't know if Walter tunned him. Remember the crazy lady on LSD who could see the shapeshifters saying she saw Petter glow as a baby? And that was the original Peter from this world who died. Maybe he is really special.

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    That was Rebecca Kibner in momentum Deferred, and she didn't say she saw him glow. She started to say something but was interrupted by drugs kicking in. I theorized she might have seen a death notice -- just as valid a theory. She saw Peter glow after that, but didn't say anything to him.

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    I wonder about whether there was a death notice? Only four people were at the funeral--the parents (Walter & Blue Liz), Carla Warren, & Nina. Wouldn't more people have attended if the service had been publicized? Surely there were other friends & colleagues besides Carla & Nina?

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    I like how Walternate was able to activate the machine in the Redverse with only half of Peter's DNA... and that just spells DOOM to me! What if the machine recognizes the bit that is Peter and initially activates but it is no longer running as it should? Or maybe that's also why it rejected Peter because somebody had already activated the machine (Peter's blood) and therefore will not accept anyone after the fact? I wonder if only one side can activate the machine at a time...or that there is more of a connection between the two devices, and actually that they are two devices linked together as one. Very interesting to think about.


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    When Peter was Over There, the machine had a physical interaction with him, clamping itself around his arm. So, instead of providing a physical interface, Walternate & VeryBadBrandon just splattered some blood/DNA on the machine & are hoping for the best? Is that why the machine isn't operating properly Over There? Well, not to mention that they are working with only half of Peter's DNA, which may be having consequences also.

    Peter's frequency, according to Sam Weiss, is also supposed to affect the machine.

    Walternate indicated that Peter needed to be willing. Otherwise, Walternate could just have kidnapped Peter & brought him back Over There & kept him locked up as Walternate has done with the Olivias.

    Regarding the DNA, Walternate should have had Fauxlivia steal Peter's toothbrush & send it Over There--not fringey/complicated enough, I guess.
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    As I have said before I think this technology is bigger than any one time line or person, but rather plays on Macrocosmic ideas of "resurrection technology" in the belief of apotheosis through the science of being able to find ways to use "Soul Energy" in order to recreate, incarnate, transform, preserve, reset, manifest, extend life in various capasities, including the creation of children timelines. (simulation hypothesis)

    "6B" gave insight into the the bonds of beings can be forged through time and space of these two realities, but what if the reasons these bonds can be forged is because they are a result of another universe mutated and split in these two newer similar realities that are both abiding by the parental DNA;s "course correction"--thus producing "fates" and patterns between them?

    Then various time travels could be the reason for the possibility, but then further explored these people may have traits and roles they have because these traits existed before...What if Peter is the the one who used the machine in one life time to create the other, and because he traveled and existed as one person-one lifetime during the creating new time line process, could be the reason he does not have two versions of his adult self (specifically the blue-since he might have already died as an adult in the beginning of the blue timeline, but he wasn't born there. So he was born again but doesn't fully live agian--as the red could be the original timeline-mutated as it now interacts with the blue), which is causing the imbalance, but that also we may see Peter "die" and "come back to life again" some where else (time travel and "rebirth)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlainaO View Post
    I think it ties into the theory of Peter activating Olivia, and Olivia in turn has to be there when Peter activates the machine...Reciprocity!! The two of them together are a very unique, potent force to be reckoned with. I mean Olivia is "the one that they prepared". And she seemingly cannot use her "abilities" without Peter to activate her, so it stands to reason that he cannot use his unique ability to activate the machine without the Dunhamnator by his side!
    But when Peter activated the power source in Over There Part 2 , he was alone , nobody was there .
    "we all had these abilities until… ‘til there was a moment in history when something was done to us, and -- and it was shut down....I suspect aliens" Walter

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