Official 4.02 "One Night In October" Discussion Thread

[Omniscient_Jay]

Because he started the machine and ran a war possibly without the full knowledge of the Commander in Chief (President of the US - Obama).

It's a guess.

I don't know...

Perhaps Walternate found a way to keep the Bridge and related elements secret. After all, the DoD Liberty Island facility is his nest, and only a week has passed; it wouldn't be hard to keep things under wraps.

Would they even go that route, though?

[Lij]

I suspect I am wrong. Because last ep. Olivia had to tell Fauxlivia about the shapeshifters and the way she told her, it seemed that Fauxlivia had no knowledge of them. Nuances like that have meaning and I should have paid closer attention to its ramifications. At the time I thought she was saying it just for Lincoln's benefit, but he likely had the explanation earlier. He was there when Walter found the tech.

[Elencha]

I assumed that look on her face was just snark. Thanks. Now I have to watch a third time.

[Lij]

I suspect I am wrong. Because last ep. Olivia had to tell Fauxlivia about the shapeshifters and the way she told her, it seemed that Fauxlivia had no knowledge of them. Nuances like that have meaning and I should have paid closer attention to its ramifications. At the time I thought she was saying it just for Lincoln's benefit, but he likely had the explanation earlier. He was there when Walter found the tech.

But you know if that is true then Faulivia might not have had contact with shapeshifters while taking Olivia's place. Or perhaps Olivia had no knowledge that Faulivia had worked with shapeshifters. Man, lose a guy and all hell breaks loose with history.

[dolemite]

you can tell females wrote this ep

starting with the Lincoln girly talk and the line "your type doesn't exist"

noone is gonna comment on Olivia killing her stepfather?

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question, so when dude was taking the dude memory of "Malorie" (female writer creation) i couldnt tell what was happening exactly in the vision... was it body parts in that box?? !@#


btw, i don't mean anything negative when i stress *female writer* its just that certain story elements i can always tell

[Elencha]

But you know if that is true then Faulivia might not have had contact with shapeshifters while taking Olivia's place. Or perhaps Olivia had no knowledge that Faulivia had worked with shapeshifters. Man, lose a guy and all hell breaks loose with history.

right? I don't see how or why she would have stayed over here for weeks with no contacts on this side. If for no other reason than ro acquaint her with pop culture, she'd have needed help, one would think, to pass as Olivia.

Now I think about it, though, maybe bronze age Olivia, (I refuse to call this orange ), has such superficial relationships that it didn't take much.

[Dacks]

question, so when dude was taking the dude memory of "Malorie" (female writer creation) i couldnt tell what was happening exactly in the vision... was it body parts in that box?? !@#

Yeah, probably animals. Serial killers tend to start with small things and work up to people. He did say he hadn't acted on his urges, but I assume that meant in regards to humans.

[Mutsie]

I soo thought about Peter {who wasn't!!! } when Broyles was saying this to Olivia @ the end:
"I always felt that there are people who leave an idelible mark on your soul; an imprint that can never be erased..."

[gillybee]

A very Dexter like feel to the serial killer, liked that Olivia and Astrid are more buddy like (a shout out to Brown Betty). Really hope they explain more about Olivia's kidnapping so we can put a bit more context to her hostility to AltLiv. The acting was very good I especially liked when Olivia opened up to the Professor about her step-dad. AltLiv is as sassy as ever I still want to wipe that grin off her face though, kudos to Anna Torv once again she is producing the goods.

[OliveDear]

I noticed that when Walter was lying down on his chair listening to Mozart, when Astrid was talking to him you can see one almost empty plastic jar of red water on one side, then a full yellow jar on the other side of his head. Not sure what this signifies but thought the contrast was very interesting.