Is Peter in the Right Place?

[Ironheart]

Been saying that for many many weeks now, and it has pretty much ruined every episode since the junk store parts device was not used by the observer near the lab. We were told that "they can't know that the boy lived to be a man", yet they haven't backed up that statement at all considering Peter has been back for 2+ episodes now and they have not directly done anything. Uggg... I don't like it.

First of all, I have to say this: They're observers, it's not in their nature to act. They have only done so, from what we've seen, very reluctantly. If I'm not mistaken, only September has actively interfered with events (aside from the rogue observer).

Secondly, the statement "..they can't know that the boy lived to be a man" has already been proven. It was only in the past few days that time chamber started working. Before that, none of the calculations were producing results. We have seen this phenomenon before -- the laws of physics changing -- when the fabric of the universe was weakening in spots. I distinctly remember an event where Walter flipped Heads a disproportionate amount of times.

Peter has only been back for those three days, so far, and is most likely the cause of this time chamber working. His presence in the Amberverse may be as destructive as Walter's venture into the Redverse.

[tricked]

"They can't know that the boy lived to be a man."

Most assumed that the Observers were talking about Olivia, Walter, etc. How do we know WHO they are talking about knowing of Peter growing to be a man ? Maybe they were talking about a specific group of people, or perhaps even Walternate and Bolivia (whom we haven't heard from concerning Peter's "return"). Let's not forget that Peter was originally from the Redverse, not the Blue. He has now "returned" to a Comboverse. He is from neither.

Yet .... it is a Comboverse that HE "created" Afterall, it was he who stepped into the machine, and caused the wormhole bridge between the two to form, combining the two universes. The Observers had a chance to alter the very Comboverse that Peter created but chose not to.

We do not currently see Peter with a bald head and no eyebrows ... however, one could argue that Peter is the Ultimate Observer of this comboverse. He created it, and while in the other two universes (Red and Blue) everything seemed to revolve around him, this new Comboverse with it's new timeline are the result of him. He is still the anomaly, but in a reverse fashion. Previously, the two universes were degrading because of him. Now, they exist because of him. And if he has brought with him time displacement phenomena of some sort ... hmm ... he is now the result of a new "pattern" ... and if anyone remembers Season One's clues, hints, puzzle pieces, etc ... most, if not all, referenced the Fibonacci sequence, golden ratio, Fibonacci spiral, etc, which we saw tonight ...

And lets not forget that Peter walked in and out of those time slips as though he were playing a smooth game of basketball, whilst no one else around him did so in such a fashion. Who else does this ? We know who else does this lol

[The Question]

"They can't know that the boy lived to be a man."

Most assumed that the Observers were talking about Olivia, Walter, etc. How do we know WHO they are talking about knowing of Peter growing to be a man ? Maybe they were talking about a specific group of people, or perhaps even Walternate and Bolivia (whom we haven't heard from concerning Peter's "return"). Let's not forget that Peter was originally from the Redverse, not the Blue. He has now "returned" to a Comboverse. He is from neither.

Yet .... it is a Comboverse that HE "created" Afterall, it was he who stepped into the machine, and caused the wormhole bridge between the two to form, combining the two universes. The Observers had a chance to alter the very Comboverse that Peter created but chose not to.

We do not currently see Peter with a bald head and no eyebrows ... however, one could argue that Peter is the Ultimate Observer of this comboverse. He created it, and while in the other two universes (Red and Blue) everything seemed to revolve around him, this new Comboverse with it's new timeline are the result of him. He is still the anomaly, but in a reverse fashion. Previously, the two universes were degrading because of him. Now, they exist because of him. And if he has brought with him time displacement phenomena of some sort ... hmm ... he is now the result of a new "pattern" ... and if anyone remembers Season One's clues, hints, puzzle pieces, etc ... most, if not all, referenced the Fibonacci sequence, golden ratio, Fibonacci spiral, etc, which we saw tonight ...

And lets not forget that Peter walked in and out of those time slips as though he were playing a smooth game of basketball, whilst no one else around him did so in such a fashion. Who else does this ? We know who else does this lol

I've Missed You! I was beginning to go crazy screaming this at everyone.
But I'll go one further in terms of Singular Masterminds.
The fact that Bell is now dead in this Amberverse Supports my belief that the Soul Magnet Iteration still exists and is messing with us.
Where else did he spend lots of time where his alternate happened to be dead? hmm
I'd even go so far as to Include that into my theory that its part of the rules. He can't exist in places he already does.
I'm waiting for the episode where Peter has it out with the Observers. Because no one knows about them now, and it's gonna be another shapeshifter thing. Especially since Fringe Division Literally doesn't trust him he's gonna do it solo.
And it's at that point that I want Bell in there somewhere. Because whether The Observers and him are actively Involved or not, he's a huge game changing piece on the chessboard. They're gonna watch him, and he's gonna know, and react accordingly and purposefully. I guess what I'm wondering is whether Peter is just gonna sign up for Team Observer and then the show ends. lol

[aplusbistoaasaistob]

Bell's time slip, ding

[psychopathicROC]

i hope they finally explain the season 1 finale!!

[fringeG33k]

I've Missed You! I was beginning to go crazy screaming this at everyone.
But I'll go one further in terms of Singular Masterminds.
The fact that Bell is now dead in this Amberverse Supports my belief that the Soul Magnet Iteration still exists and is messing with us.
Where else did he spend lots of time where his alternate happened to be dead? hmm
I'd even go so far as to Include that into my theory that its part of the rules. He can't exist in places he already does.
I'm waiting for the episode where Peter has it out with the Observers. Because no one knows about them now, and it's gonna be another shapeshifter thing. Especially since Fringe Division Literally doesn't trust him he's gonna do it solo.
And it's at that point that I want Bell in there somewhere. Because whether The Observers and him are actively Involved or not, he's a huge game changing piece on the chessboard. They're gonna watch him, and he's gonna know, and react accordingly and purposefully. I guess what I'm wondering is whether Peter is just gonna sign up for Team Observer and then the show ends. lol

I totally agree. I think there's going to be a huge gotcha around Bell. I don't even want to write what I really think. Too bad we're all going to have to wait until next year before we see the real fall finale. Its going to be weird when the show comes back. It'll be two really REALLY good episodes back to back for sure, the planned fall finale and then the planned winter/spring premiere. Next week looks like filler. *sigh*

[The Question]

I totally agree. I think there's going to be a huge gotcha around Bell. I don't even want to write what I really think. Too bad we're all going to have to wait until next year before we see the real fall finale. Its going to be weird when the show comes back. It'll be two really REALLY good episodes back to back for sure, the planned fall finale and then the planned winter/spring premiere. Next week looks like filler. *sigh*

Yeah seriously F**k that Promo.


If you saw the Promo then the following is Kosher:

They are doing the Classic invisible Man Story that's Been Done and Re-Done and Re-Envisioned and Re-Booted to Death. I really would Love to see an Invisible Man Standalone Episode though, just not Now. Because Fringe can take a done to death Idea and make it Awesome Again. After making us wait 2 weeks, then having to wait a 3rd. Now we get 2 episodes with Peter being back, then total filler then fall break.

[dolemite]

naw, Peter not in the right place

no way in hell thats Olivia

something that bugged me back in the Subject 9 episode was when Olivia was picking the lock to Cameron's room

Olivia just nonchalantly bust out her lock picking kit and proceeded to break in

when Walter was asking about it, she was like "Do what?" "The door was open when we got here..."

so yeah, i'm to believe that because Peter didnt come into her fbi-life 3 years ago that she is not "by the book" or should i just go back and think that w/o young Peter around and O killing her father that she is much more rougher around the edges than original Olivia is

[Rekka]

Very interesting turn of events, first Peter says he belongs here and then by he end he recants his original statement.

Here's my daydream on this topic, spoiler tags just incase:

Wouldn't it be something if he full-heartedly believes that he belongs elsewhere, builds a contraption to attempt getting back to the 'right' universe only for Olivia's memories start to come back; but by that time Peter has already activated whatever devise that will once again displace him from this timeline and she will have to try and stop him, convince him he IS in the right Place... :/

[LordManhammer]

The wife in the episode told her husband to stop jumping to the past and live his life. What if Peter has to do the same because the timeline has been re-written?