Peter rises and then no one knows him? So....

[petersolivia]

Ok, so Peter rose from Reiden Lake episodes ago but...


Why is it Peter doesnt express... well, anything?

1. How did I get into lake?
2. Does he remember getting into machine to connect two universe's? (I am guessing not)

Is the DRJ conversation going to turn on any lights?
ie. I cut you in half and now you are here?
Also, AltBroyles is dead and now he is alive?

I dont recall - no one ever knew about his child, including Peter right?


This IS FUN! lol

[Omniscient_Jay]

Ok, so Peter rose from Reiden Lake episodes ago but...


Why is it Peter doesnt express... well, anything?

1. How did I get into lake?
2. Does he remember getting into machine to connect two universe's? (I am guessing not)

Is the DRJ conversation going to turn on any lights?
ie. I cut you in half and now you are here?
Also, AltBroyles is dead and now he is alive?

I dont recall - no one ever knew about his child, including Peter right?

This IS FUN! lol

I'm not quite sure what your question is, exactly, but I'll try to offer some responses.

As far as it would seem, Peter was completely aware of things up until the moment he disappeared. He existed in a sort of extra-reality limbo for approximately one week in real time, in which he appeared to become more and more "corporeal" and tried to reach out to the Fringe team. That he (sub)consciously reached out (speaking to Walter, stalking Olivia) implies that he had some basic awareness of what he was doing. And when Peter emerges from Reiden Lake in 4.04, he says "I'm back", which in turn implies that he was aware that he disappeared for a time (thereby indicating he remembers everything from his own personal past).

Granted, Peter never actually spoke of what it was like to be in that quasi-existent limbo state, but we can assume that must have been mightily uncomfortable.

As for DRJ and Alt-Broyles, Peter quickly figured out that things seemed to have changed, with the source of this change being that September never saved him at Reiden, meaning he instead died; this death was the catalyst for this revised history.

And yes, Peter doesn't know about Henry Dunham; and since Henry was never born in this timeline, neither does anyone else. The only way we'll get resolution on this end is if things return to "normal" (going back to home timeline, people getting their "memories" back, etc.).

Do these address your questions?

[petersolivia]

I'm not quite sure what your question is, exactly, but I'll try to offer some responses.

As far as it would seem, Peter was completely aware of things up until the moment he disappeared. He existed in a sort of extra-reality limbo for approximately one week in real time, in which he appeared to become more and more "corporeal" and tried to reach out to the Fringe team. That he (sub)consciously reached out (speaking to Walter, stalking Olivia) implies that he had some basic awareness of what he was doing. And when Peter emerges from Reiden Lake in 4.04, he says "I'm back", which in turn implies that he was aware that he disappeared for a time (thereby indicating he remembers everything from his own personal past).

Granted, Peter never actually spoke of what it was like to be in that quasi-existent limbo state, but we can assume that must have been mightily uncomfortable.

As for DRJ and Alt-Broyles, Peter quickly figured out that things seemed to have changed, with the source of this change being that September never saved him at Reiden, meaning he instead died; this death was the catalyst for this revised history.

And yes, Peter doesn't know about Henry Dunham; and since Henry was never born in this timeline, neither does anyone else. The only way we'll get resolution on this end is if things return to "normal" (going back to home timeline, people getting their "memories" back, etc.).

Do these address your questions?

Sorry, that you dont understand my question(s)? Its a fringe thing on my part... lol

Yes, I think you covered it with, "he understands that he died in both universe's so "something is up"? - he was never saved"

I just think he should and maybe is looking to speak to an observer? Those frakkers ain't big on answers though? lol
So what good will it do?

[Omniscient_Jay]

Sorry, that you dont understand my question(s)? Its a fringe thing on my part... lol

Yes, I think you covered it with, "he understands that he died in both universe's so "something is up"? - he was never saved"

I just think he should and maybe is looking to speak to an observer? Those frakkers ain't big on answers though? lol
So what good will it do?

In 4.05, Walter says that Red Peter died at Reiden; when Peter asks if the Observer tried to save them, to which Walter replies that he doesn't know who the Observer even is. Hence why Peter figures the central difference in this history was Observer (non)interference.

Because of this, Peter currently thinks that he is stuck in a different timeline, and that his original world is still out "there" somewhere. I think depending on what happens when he uses the Vacuum machine (which he says he intends to use in order to "return"), he may have no choice but to confront the Observers. They might also try to stop Peter in his plans, so there's that as well. I'm guessing that we'll get answers as to what's really going on over the course of what remains in the season, as well as during the Observer-centric episode that pops up every season.