Peter's "importance"

[XanDior]

In season 2's "August", the dying Observer is told that the kidnapped girl will be safe because he "made her important" - the importance being that he set it up so that she was the cause of his death. Or words to that effect.

Now, maybe September "made" Peter important by making him the catalyst that set in motion a chain of events that led to September's death. I think September knew all along that Peter's very existence would result in his (September's) own death. By not removing him from the time-stream, September in effect made Peter's existence necessary and, when the Observers came for September, he ended up sacrificing himself so that Peter could remain in the time stream.

I think that is what is causing Olivia to have jump-started recovered memories.

Any thoughts?

[PB]

In season 2's "August", the dying Observer is told that the kidnapped girl will be safe because he "made her important" - the importance being that he set it up so that she was the cause of his death. Or words to that effect.

Now, maybe September "made" Peter important by making him the catalyst that set in motion a chain of events that led to September's death. I think September knew all along that Peter's very existence would result in his (September's) own death. By not removing him from the time-stream, September in effect made Peter's existence necessary and, when the Observers came for September, he ended up sacrificing himself so that Peter could remain in the time stream.

I think that is what is causing Olivia to have jump-started recovered memories.

Any thoughts?

I don't know that Olivia's continued recollection of past memories or any acceleration thereof has anything to do with September's sacrifice on her and Peter's behalf, I still think that's the combined effects of Peter's reemergence in the timeline and the cortexiphan treatments she's been receiving at the hands of alt-Nina.

I do think your argument that September is making Peter important once more despite the efforts of the greater Observer collective to have him permanently erased from time holds water considering the events in the episode "August".

I still think "Brown Betty" is important foreshadowing and that the Observers may not be willing to simply let Peter continue to live, they obviously had a very specific idea in what manner events were meant to unfold and September has interfered by not doing his part and going so far as to intentionally influence Peter's actions.

It will be very interesting to learn what September's obsession with the Bishop's is rooted in (if such a revelation is ever made). It's already been speculated that September might be in some way related to the Bishops (September is from the distant future, are the Bishops distant relatives) it also stands to reason that the Observers are completely unaware of this if it is indeed the case because they seem to have no idea what September's motivations are for defying the will of the Observer majority.

[jade86]

Peter was important before September did his first mistake! He didn't made him important because peter was still imporant for some reason! All the events we saw was something that weren't meant to happen but the point was that september had to watch the finding of the cure because "the boy is important". We saw setptember talk with walter different times and follow the fringe team but only because peter was there. He was there to follow peter.
There are some hints that makes me think that Peter is important for all the observers, something that you know very well:

- His ability to use August's gun
- He's able to bring back to life everything mechanical

In other words, a very similar power based on energy!
Maybe Peter will be the father of the observers, somehow. Or the first of that race

[Xerophytes]

Peter's importance is due to the mistake September committed in the 1980s.

He is important and therefore need to be kept alive until he goes into that machine in S3 finale to rewrite (and correct) the timeline.

The whole team of Observers agreed on this. And therefore you see all of them watching the event in the Liberty Island.

Peter's importance ended at that time. His purpose has been fulfilled. He is no longer important after that event.

Problem is Peter is bleeding through this new timeline (for some reason we don't know yet). December asked September to correct that. He needs to be erased.

However, September goes rogue. This somehow echo back to August defying all observers in the episode August. We do not know what is the reason of September.

Clearly, Peter is no longer important in this time for the whole team of Observers (shown in the meeting of the observers). But somehow September insisted on this.

[PB]

Peter was important before September did his first mistake! He didn't made him important because peter was still imporant for some reason! All the events we saw was something that weren't meant to happen but the point was that september had to watch the finding of the cure because "the boy is important". We saw setptember talk with walter different times and follow the fringe team but only because peter was there. He was there to follow peter.
There are some hints that makes me think that Peter is important for all the observers, something that you know very well:

- His ability to use August's gun
- He's able to bring back to life everything mechanical

In other words, a very similar power based on energy!
Maybe Peter will be the father of the observers, somehow. Or the first of that race

I think Walter may be a very important piece of Observer history, perhaps Walter is the important one. Peter is only important to September for some reason. The other Observers only cared about Peter's compatibility with the machine. Once Peter used the machine to create the bridge the Observers all conspired to have him erased from time. When Peter bled back through the Observer December ordered September to erase Peter, but September chose not to. It's not clear what Peter's importance is beyond his compatibility with the machine. As far as the Observers are concerned Peter is obsolete now that the bridge has been created, but for some reason September has some attachment to Walter (and to Peter as well?). I believe September has an affinity to Walter and that is why Peter is important to him. I also agree with your point that Peter may in some way be connected to the Observer future, and that his ability to use August's gun is curious. But I think Walter may be a lot more important to the Observers' future than Peter is, otherwise why would all the other Observers want him erased and want to punish September for not erasing him?

Peter's importance is due to the mistake September committed in the 1980s.

He is important and therefore need to be kept alive until he goes into that machine in S3 finale to rewrite (and correct) the timeline.

The whole team of Observers agreed on this. And therefore you see all of them watching the event in the Liberty Island.

Peter's importance ended at that time. His purpose has been fulfilled. He is no longer important after that event.

Problem is Peter is bleeding through this new timeline (for some reason we don't know yet). December asked September to correct that. He needs to be erased.

However, September goes rogue. This somehow echo back to August defying all observers in the episode August. We do not know what is the reason of September.

Clearly, Peter is no longer important in this time for the whole team of Observers (shown in the meeting of the observers). But somehow September insisted on this.

^^^ Yeah, what he said

[dALTnielle]

Peter's importance is due to the mistake September committed in the 1980s.

He is important and therefore need to be kept alive until he goes into that machine in S3 finale to rewrite (and correct) the timeline.

The whole team of Observers agreed on this. And therefore you see all of them watching the event in the Liberty Island.

Peter's importance ended at that time. His purpose has been fulfilled. He is no longer important after that event.

Problem is Peter is bleeding through this new timeline (for some reason we don't know yet). December asked September to correct that. He needs to be erased.

However, September goes rogue. This somehow echo back to August defying all observers in the episode August. We do not know what is the reason of September.

Clearly, Peter is no longer important in this time for the whole team of Observers (shown in the meeting of the observers). But somehow September insisted on this.

But the fact that September couldn't stop himself from witnessing Walternate discover the cure for RedPeter, doesn't this mean that Peter was already important, before the mistake? Why else would he want to witness it?
And when Peter enters September's mind, he tells Peter why he had to be there: "It was important, you are important." So the event was important, and Peter IS important. Meaning he still is.
What confuses us is why does September still thinks that Peter is important and the other don't. We have to find out their motivation, to know the answer.

[Xerophytes]

But the fact that September couldn't stop himself from witnessing Walternate discover the cure for RedPeter, doesn't this mean that Peter was already important, before the mistake? Why else would he want to witness it?
And when Peter enters September's mind, he tells Peter why he had to be there: "It was important, you are important." So the event was important, and Peter IS important. Meaning he still is.
What confuses us is why does September still thinks that Peter is important and the other don't. We have to find out their motivation, to know the answer.

The event is clearly an important. It is a tipping of many things.

If let's say... September did not intervene that moment.

Peter grew up in Red Universe. Walter and Bell worked on poking holes to the alt universe. Cortexiphan happened. ZFT rises. DRJ activated Olivia. Red Universe experience wormholes. Walternate rises up to help in patching the holes. Fringe Team formed over there. Fringe team comprises of Fauxlivia. Peter being the son of Walternate helped in Fringe team. Fauxlivia and Peter met. Fell in-love..... had a son called Henry. What did September said in this episode?

I always have a suspicion that September's action was not an accident.

[PB]

But the fact that September couldn't stop himself from witnessing Walternate discover the cure for RedPeter, doesn't this mean that Peter was already important, before the mistake? Why else would he want to witness it?
And when Peter enters September's mind, he tells Peter why he had to be there: "It was important, you are important." So the event was important, and Peter IS important. Meaning he still is.
What confuses us is why does September still thinks that Peter is important and the other don't. We have to find out their motivation, to know the answer.

I believe that Peter and Walter are both very significant to September for some reason. It is clear that the other Observers don't share September's sentiment regarding Peter, but September's need to witness Walternate's discovery of Peter's cure does make it clear that the Bishops are for some reason a significant lineage to ol' September. How very curious.

[PB]

The event is clearly an important. It is a tipping of many things.

If let's say... September did not intervene that moment.

Peter grew up in Red Universe. Walter and Bell worked on poking holes to the alt universe. Cortexiphan happened. ZFT rises. DRJ activated Olivia. Red Universe experience wormholes. Walternate rises up to help in patching the holes. Fringe Team formed over there. Fringe team comprises of Fauxlivia. Peter being the son of Walternate helped in Fringe team. Fauxlivia and Peter met. Fell in-love..... had a son called Henry. What did September said in this episode?

I always have a suspicion that September's action was not an accident.

Except that if Peter had not intervened Peter still would have wound up with Blue Olivia. That was September's message to Peter when they met in his mind, if not for his mistake Peter and Blue Olivia would have had a baby named Henry together, but because of September's mistake the events from the last three seasons happened instead and Peter and Fauxlivia procreated the wrong Baby Henry.

If not for September's mistake, all of the events as you described them likely would have happened except that either Peter would have crossed over from the Red Universe and met Blue Olivia or the other way around and they would have met and had the "correct" Baby Henry (likely it would have been Blue Olivia crossing over to the Red Universe using her cortexiphan abilities and meeting Peter).

[Xerophytes]

the whole show is a paradox. there is no solution except this:

stop Walter and Bell from doing alt universe experiment.

stop Observer from meddling.