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    Quote Originally Posted by Omniscient_Jay View Post
    There was, actually.

    In the Blue World, the planes hit the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, but missed the White House; in the Red World, the planes hit the White House and the Pentagon, but missed the Twin Towers.

    We've seen that this still applies in the rewritten timeline, most prominently during inter-world transitions, where the Twin Towers are visible in the Red World, but not in the Blue World.
    Thanks for remembering me that detail
    Jones want all the universes to collapse or he wants to safe a universe by destroying another?!
    Why the observers are so committed to put things in order?! My only aswer it's that they only think about themselves and they only want their "species" to survive. Maybe Jones has nothing against the observers...

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    I watched this episode for a second time last night, and I have to say I still enjoyed it. Sure, there wasn't any big action scenes or anything like that, but we did confirm a lot of information about characters we had only suspected. We know, for a fact, that Meana and B-Royles are not shape shifters, and I think we also saw a little bit of an infactuation from Meana towards David Robert Jones. She doesn't just think DRJ considers her to be important, but I believe she thinks DRJ likes her, romantically. Of course, I doubt that DRJ feels the same way, he'll do anything to manipulate people.

    There are now two hinchmen under lock and key in the Red Universe, and DRJ's plan to collapse the Bridge was ultimately foiled. Now that they know what he's trying to do, they're going to be able to put up more security at the Bridge and, hopefully, better protect it. We also know his endgame now -- to collapse the universes and use his Noah's Ark of constructs to form a new universe -- though we are still missing his reasoning behind it.

    I simply loved the interaction between characters on this episode too. I was never too fond of Fauxlivia until this episode. She's actually kinda fun, and looks stunning in uniform! Astrid acts very much like the older, protective sister to Altstrid, and it was heart-warming to see how much compassion she shows for her alternate self. I've always loved Astrid from the beginning, she is my favorite character in the enitre show -- even above Walter!

    It was good to see how far Walter has come since 401. He was, more or less, a prisoner in his Harvard lab when the season started out. He was kept under guard all the time, and his agoraphobia left him unwilling to venture outside for very long. He was quite insane, and not in the good way he had been the last three seasons. But look at him now! He doesn't need Astrid to walk around crime scenes with a camera stuck to her head anymore. He even ventured to the Red Universe all by himself! Okay, so Fauxlivia and Agent Lee took care of him, but still, he's grown a lot.

    Agent Lee seems to be coming out of his shell a little more, he even jokes about the severed hand as though he's getting used to all of that stuff. I think spending time with Fauxlivia will do him good, some of that strength is bound to rub off onto him.

    In essence, this episode wasn't full of a lot of revelations, action and suspense, but it was full of good story telling, wonderful characterization and a very pointed example of where both universes, and the characters contained within them, stand for the last few episodes.

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    I wondered if the severed hand in the jar was teh same hand in the jar we saw ( I think) in the pilot when Peter was starting Wlater's car up for the first time.
    what would that suggest re timelines.....

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    5/29 "You couldn't bring over a casserole, but a severed hand is okay?" I needed that.

    I love seeing Jones again, even if he didn't rivet me like he did the first year. I've had some trouble with his 'zombies'. But's it's me, not the show. I'm so glad they didn't kill him off.I really want to see him through to the end. I hope, anyway. I realize there's a long list of requests for the last season from fans. I jess wanna be entertained, and I always am.

    Gosh, it's so great to see Broyle's son as normal, even vivacious.

    "Really? Domesticated badgers as pets?" Yikes! I missed that the other time I watched this. *Daydreaming about how my dog would react to one* HA! *cough* Okay.....

    Oooo. Sexy. The way Peter opened that knife.

    No. Nobody can talk to Broyles like that.But Walter's been On His Own. Shocking. Lee's supervision has a very long leash.

    AltLiv and Lee's looks when Walter says he'll not sleep naked at her house. It's considerate!

    It's sweet that Walter says now he wouldn't have done anything differently. I realize one of the tenants of the show is love between parent and child. But he's talking about destroying a universe to know his own progeny. Although I have compassion for my fellow man and woman, I don't feel the need to have a child to feel validated. It is sweet, however to see it in action.

    *loosening collar* Overpopulation PSA. Now back to your irregularly scheduled Hulu.

    I'm probably getting too picky now, but it's a bit weird seeing Broyles meet Jones at this corporate park. Maybe? Maybe they didn't have a lot to chose from. And I guess nobody knows Jones. Never mind...... Finally! Some plot I can grab onto. Jones is going to blow up the Machine. The one who is healing the worlds. I realize I'm repeating the obvious, it's just a point worth bringing up. Hard to tell what busy little Jones gets into, sometimes.

    "Dad. No one's ever liked me." Well, you scared the sh*t out of people like me with your dark complexion and those cataracted eyes. I know, you were the victim, and that was a heck of a show, getting stolen from your bedroom through the closet. *shudder* playin' on childhood fears. Yeah, in the closet and under the bed. But only sometimes. And they weren't that bad. Or I don't remember as well. I love to sleep in the dark now. Not so crazy about it as a little kid. I know! It's all about me! *wink* Sweet dreams, Sweet Chris.

    This next scene was one of my favorite of the whole Season, top 10 for sure, maybe even top 5. *rollin' eyes* Walter caught some flack for wearing the little geisha top. I thought he was cute. Some folks thought too cute, into the sexy realm. Nah. Just comforting someone who looks a lot like Agent Dunham back home.

    Like her or hate her, it's disconcerting to see AltLiv drunk. Olivia has been lightening her drinking, even if only a little. Her leaning on drink to unwind after work is a reality of a lot of folk. But we consider it a character flaw. *sigh* I know. But she hasn't mourned RedLincoln, who loved her so steadfastly.

    It's funny hearing AltLiv sound differently drunk to me than Olivia. Except I guess Olivia doesn't really get drunk, she doesn't slur. I have to feel a little sad about AltLiv. Okay!
    No, I'm just kidding. I really did feel sad for her. But my healing process began back in "Bloodline". I have great arguments now with a friend who dismisses Bloodline as NOW, not having ever occurred. I had a lot of fun with "Henrietta". *chuckle*

    "No evidence is evidence in and of itself." *chews inside of mouth*

    Oh yeah, that's right. Nixon's not a hero over here. He's on the silver dollar over there.

    Gotcha, B**ch! I don't know who had more fun this season, Blair Brown or me watching Blair Brown. What am I saying? SHE got to be the villainess, of course, She had more fun.

    "Take care of this universe. I've grown quite fond of it." And then there's a look from Lincoln. In an interview held outside last fall I think I remember Seth Gabel saying something like certain people may have attractions for the same others across universes. Oh yeah, but I also remember him insinuating that it's a pretty far fetched idea, to not only love only one woman, but only the same woman in each universe. Take that, you 'only one perfect soulmate' people, *chuckle*

    I don't see why Jones would want to collapse both universes. Where would he live. Or is it just another mad scientist plot. I never understand why the villain is trying to destroy the world when there's nowhere else for him/her to go. We all die soon enough. IMO.

    What a fun show. Of course I didn't know it'd lead to losing Lincoln, but then the actor said he was gone making a movie the last two shows. So, his absence was a fluke that was written into the storyline. Which is the story I'm sticking to and I know Lincoln fans will get to squee together again in the fall.
    Dear Bonnie Scotland. I would be willing to bet you are absolutely right. Wouldn't that be a hoot? Still in the old station wagon......At least the same hand in the jar. That sounds like it would be true. Nice catch. Oh, did I tell you I'm Horrible with these theories? But I like it.
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    Wait... you are so glad that they didn't kill *who* off...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omniscient_Jay View Post
    There was, actually.

    In the Blue World, the planes hit the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, but missed the White House; in the Red World, the planes hit the White House and the Pentagon, but missed the Twin Towers.

    We've seen that this still applies in the rewritten timeline, most prominently during inter-world transitions, where the Twin Towers are visible in the Red World, but not in the Blue World.
    This makes me wonder; maybe in the Redverse, there was no Second Gulf War. Since there are difficult problems
    like vortexes, plagues, and other mutations blighting the Redverse US, maybe it only had enough resources
    to fight a long war in Afghanistan and not Iraq as well.

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