Indeed. The good guys will most definately divert disaster in some way.
Really? Somebody tell me how many innocent people DRJ has offed up til now! So his way of being a good guy ... on our side ... is being sinister, mean, murderous and evil! Not the normal character development for a good guy!Originally Posted by Stukov
Does anyone else recall Jones' crony, the one that did the lumbar puncture of Olivia, saying that they were preparing for a war, and that Olivia was to become great, or a centerpiece in that effort? Season 1 I think. That could still be the plan, and the Observers are looking good for that war.
Well in season 1, my impression was that Jones was preparing soldiers and weapons for a war between the universes, which looked in fact a bit stupid when we realised later that what was going to happen was a physical destruction of one or both worlds, not a war between them.
Now we know from September that Jones still has the same goals.. and we know it's got something to do with merging/collapsing universes/starting some new form of humanity maybe.. No matter what he's got exactly in his mind, it looks like a better plan to solve the actual problem than preparing for a war.
Now it's still possible that preparing for a war is another part of the plan, if really the Observers are to be antagonist in some way, but I don't think so, cause really September didn't look concerned about Jones' s plans, and it didn't matter to the Observers too that the rewrite made Jones alive again.
My personal vision about this (but it's based on my own theory about the 2 universes being "twin universes" ) is that the 2 universes we know were once physically one, became 2 by some accident, and that Jones somehow realised that the only (?) way to avert a catastrophe is to make them become one again .
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Spacefilou, My hubby and I share your therory. That DRJ is trying to not just bridge the two universes, but put them back together. Not Unlike what sort of happen in Welcome to Westfield. (but backwards) The two universe hum at different frequencies.. Or maybe they should be humming at the SAME frequency. But of course this might not be the best idea since that would be like shoving 2 people into the same mind.. and as we can see with Olivia... something is always going to be lost....
To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya.
This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits. Dr Walter Bishop "The Cure" Episode 1.6
Hmm. Excellent thoughts, spacefilou.
The more I think about it, the more I'm agreeing with this theory. Not that I've been able to establish if DRJ is "good or bad" or if he's working with a positive agenda... because I certainly have not - but I do see the potential solution to cohesive flattened un-layered worlds.
It's difficult to know DRJ's exact goals but it' would be so "Fringe" to have "a bad guy " that in fact tries to achieve a positive goal using a wrong way to do so.
So I'd put my money on the fact that Jones is that kind of guy.
As for my theory about twin universes, it occurred to me some day while I was watching a bonus on one of the Fringe DVDs. Wyman and Pinkner were talking about the apple glyph, symbolising the relationship between a character and his alternate, but suddenly I realised that what they said didn't entirely match a "character" symbolism , but more a "universe" symbolism.
Seems to me that a unique universe, that became 2 by some unexplained phenomena (juste like real twins when a unique egg becomes 2), would explain much about the quantum entanglement of the universes, the 2 universes following very resembling paths despite being splited since so long (just like twins who, sometimes even separated at birth, have strangely resembling lives ) , and that it would also be a very easy thing to explain to the audience, using the analogy of twins, precisely!
WAlter's explanation about the "different choices making different universes" never quite satisfied me, and even more when Walter sent back the machine in time. Seems to me it's a nonsense: if a universe is created at each different choice, sending back the machine so that Peter can do a differetn choice will merely create a new universe. In fact, a universe is entirely determined by the "list of choices" that have been made in it.
So I'd say : 2026's Walter didn't believe anymore in his own "choice theory". But that's my theory and opinion, I'm probably completely wrong, as I've been before with my other theories..
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Hehe porcupine gargoyles, can't believe they got away with that episode without people saying its the new mole babies silly moment.
As for Jones collapsing both universes into themselves. Surely it wouldn't reset things back as they were previously, but more likely to merge both or totally destroy them like it did with the taxi and plane.
Oddly during the end of season 3 and start of 4 I wanted things to revert back to how we had them originally, but recently I've warmed to both fringe divisions working together I'm enjoying the way things are, plus our universe crossed lovers Pete'n'Liv have got it on again.
I haven't watched any more episodes and my guess is that in the cancellation-decision version, DRJ would have tried to create his own, empty world filled with flying werecupines and other creatures. He would have failed and to save everything, Olivia or peter would have sacrificed themselves by going into the machine and seperating the two worlds but making them impenetrable and stable.
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