Time Travel

[kowalinator]

Ok so there is no way that the machine could have allowed travel back in time, since doing so would alter future events immensely. Discuss...

[Yorel]

I think the invention worked but not as intended.
The cameras are somewhat necessary to align everything properly kinda like
the camera used by construction workers.

The invention was supposed to allow to move someone through space and time.
However it moves someone only through space and not through time as far as we know.

OR

What if it worked like intended. Now this is getting interesting.... What if it did move Jones through space and time?
Obviously Jones is highly important. So if he was to "escape" people would notice it and bring it up. And they would know right away he is linked to everything. What if the new Jones in our current time line is Jones from the future? So the present Jones is still in jail and the future Jones is also now in our time line.
Nobody would know that he escaped.
He could also be highly interested in Olivia based on what she does in the future.

Does someone remember from the episode "1.07 In Which We Meet Mr. Jones" if a date is set for trial? Like he is supposed to be able to get out of Jail in the near future? I will have to watch tonight's episode again but I think the "lawyer" mentioned something about a trial if he signed some sort of paper. This could be a clue that the Jones we now have is indeed from the future. Since in our current time line is he nowhere near being released.


Something that does not much to do with Jones.
It said something on one of the camera on the front. In white letters, was it Walter?

[kowalinator]

the only problem is that Walter stated that his machine was built to "teleport" something from the past. Seeing as you would need to find the exact location of every particle to teleport something that information would have to be ascertained from the past.... teleporting something from the future is impossible... then again if he was from the future than he would already have Walters machine or atleast the knowledge of how to build it meaning that they wouldnt have had to steal it in the first place....

[Yorel]

Why would he have the knowledge of how to build the machine in the future if it stays locked in a safe?

And "teleporting" someone from the past is as far fetched as "teleporting" someone from the future.

[kowalinator]

if he were to come from the future in this fashion that would mean that he would have to know that this would occur so that he could be in the "right spot" at the right time....
For him to know this would happen in the future then it would already have had to happen before for him in his past, our present. Thus he would already have knowledge of how the system would have worked and the second third or millionth time that this event has occured, since we cannot truly measure time if time travel is possible, he would already have made the machine thus relieving him of needing to steal it again...

[Yorel]

That is if there is only 1 jones from 1 space/time.

My theory would be that there is 2 different Jones from different space/time.

Example:

Guy #1 tells Guy #2 in 10 years stand exactly there we will bring you back.

1 minute later , Guy #1 uses the machine targeting this exact spot 10 years in the future on the time grid.

Future Guy #2 gets ported back, so now there is two Guy #2 in the same space/time.

And guy #2 still wouldn't know how to build the machine.

[Yorel]

Double Post sorry.

[Fringeling]

the only problem is that Walter stated that his machine was built to "teleport" something from the past.

I thought Walter said something to the effect of "I built a machine to reach through the fabric of space-time and bring back Dr. Gross" ---- I don't remember him using the word teleport (I could be wrong). He also clarified at the end of his revealing conversation that in theory, one could get anyone from anywhere.

Now, obviously Jones was transported, but was he teleported? If one used a worm hole to travel, would this be the same as teleporting?

[Latinoguy]

Why would he have the knowledge of how to build the machine in the future if it stays locked in a safe?

And "teleporting" someone from the past is as far fetched as "teleporting" someone from the future.

hahaha no

Teleportation lol

[Latinoguy]

I thought Walter said something to the effect of "I built a machine to reach through the fabric of space-time and bring back Dr. Gross" ---- I don't remember him using the word teleport (I could be wrong). He also clarified at the end of his revealing conversation that in theory, one could get anyone from anywhere.

Now, obviously Jones was transported, but was he teleported? If one used a worm hole to travel, would this be the same as teleporting?

wormholes