Reply With QuoteOverall sub-par again for me. Pretty good standalone, but a little obvious and cliche much like previous episodes lately. I would rate it about a 6. Next week looks pretty good though.
Official 2.13 "The Bishop Revival" Discussion Thread
Fringe: Season 2 Episode 13
2.13 "THE BISHOP REVIVAL"
A LETHAL TOXIN UNCOVERS A SKELETON IN THE BISHOP FAMILY’S CLOSET ON AN ALL-NEW “FRINGE” THURSDAY, JANUARY 28, ON FOX.
When a specific group of guests at a wedding in Brookline, MA, suffocate from the inside out, the upsetting and disconcerting crime scene has the Fringe team investigating how the toxin was delivered and targeted. As evidence is taken into the lab, it’s discovered that the wedding ceremony was a testing ground for a weaponized science experiment. Adding to the intense lab investigation, Walter uncovers an alarming formula that reveals a link to a branch on the Bishop family tree. With the escalating threat of more deadly attacks and unexpected familial ties to the case, the Fringe team stops at nothing to prevent further catastrophic events in the all-new “The Bishop Revival” episode of FRINGE airing Thursday, Jan. 28 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FRINGE-213) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham; Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop; John Noble as Walter Bishop; Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles;Blair Brown as Nina Sharp; Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth.
Guest Cast: Craig Robert Young as Alfred Hoffman; Max Train as Eric Franko; Sierra Pitkin as Jordan; Alberta Mayne as Young Mother; Brendon Zub as David Staller; Aaron Brooks as Josh Staller; Nancy Linari as Eliza Staller; Leonard Tenisci as Harry Staller; Dan Joffre as Detective Manning; Barbara Kottmeier as Shelley; John Macintyre as Young Usher; Lauren Attadia as Amanda; Al Miro as Neal; Magda Harout as Nana Staller.
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Overall sub-par again for me. Pretty good standalone, but a little obvious and cliche much like previous episodes lately. I would rate it about a 6. Next week looks pretty good though.
Hello friends, here are some thoughts:
- This episode had many great Walter moments, my fave being the car driving.
-The subject of nazism and the holocaust, though a very sensitive topic, was well handled in this one, in my opinion.
-The science was pretty cool, and somewhat feasible (to me, at least).
-The Markham bookstore guy was a great and welcome appearance. This is exactly what this season could use more of: tie ins with events and characters from the first season.
-The end reveal was very ominous, and I like how it was left open-ended, as to incite theorizing.
-The exposition on the Bishop family added another layer of depth to the mystery surrounding them. I can't wait to learn more about our favorite dysfunctional family.
Even though there isn't much to talk about, I liked this one. It didn't blow me away, but I was entertained for an hour, so I am more or less satisfied.
And judging from next week, we could consider this episode "the calm before the storm".
Th-th-th-th-th-that's all, folks! (insert bugs bunny smiley here)
I agree: Walter driving the car was hilarious!Originally Posted by Omniscient_Jay
Hello friends, here are some thoughts:
- This episode had many great Walter moments, my fave being the car driving.
-The subject of nazism and the holocaust, though a very sensitive topic, was well handled in this one, in my opinion.
-The science was pretty cool, and somewhat feasible (to me, at least).
-The Markham bookstore guy was a great and welcome appearance. This is exactly what this season could use more of: tie ins with events and characters from the first season.
-The end reveal was very ominous, and I like how it was left open-ended, as to incite theorizing.
-The exposition on the Bishop family added another layer of depth to the mystery surrounding them. I can't wait to learn more about our favorite dysfunctional family.
Even though there isn't much to talk about, I liked this one. It didn't blow me away, but I was entertained for an hour, so I am more or less satisfied.
And judging from next week, we could consider this episode "the calm before the storm".
Th-th-th-th-th-that's all, folks! (insert bugs bunny smiley here)
And it was GREAT to see Markham again! An unimportant, yet enjoyable, character from S1: just what we needed to see
I also agree that this episode was fantastic, yet it was entertaining. It was one of those episodes where you aren't emotionally rocked and clinging to the end of the seat, yet you are entertained throughout. I really liked this episode
Another great S2 episode: that's two incredible episodes in a row, let's see if they can keep it going
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I really enjoyed the episode as well. It might have been a monster-of-the-week type, but it was done well, especially with the reveals about the Bishop family.
i liked it.
is it just me or do it seem like averyone runs away after the eps over???
there not a lot of posting going on.......
I enjoyed this episode more than I expected to. The ending was definitely interesting. Broyles is definitely letting Walter get away with more now. I thought it was sort of interesting that Walter seemed to especially want Olivia to understand how deeply he felt about family as he looked at Peter. Foreshadowing?
My thoughts exactly, Ockham.I enjoyed this episode more than I expected to. The ending was definitely interesting. Broyles is definitely letting Walter get away with more now. I thought it was sort of interesting that Walter seemed to especially want Olivia to understand how deeply he felt about family as he looked at Peter. Foreshadowing?
The more foreshadowing and hints they use, the better the payoff will have to be, lest they want to totally betray their viewers expectations.
Just posting my 2 cents:
The following is not spoilerish IMO, but does discuss the comic book in conjunction to the episode. Din't know if comics are considered spoilers but just in case I put most of it in spoiler box:
Well This Episode directly ties back to the comic books #5 "It Runs in the Family".
It was because of this comic that I believed strongly that time travel (not just reality hopping in current time, but multi history of either) would happen on the show. Since the German Nazi guy was said to be "100 yrs old" and the fact that he is photographed with Robert Bishop confirms my earlier suspicions.
However, there is a discrepancy from the comic and show. In the comic Walter's father is named "Hans".
In the comic, besides sending Hitler back to the dinosaurs, it gets explained that the Nazi's had build a time machine and that it just so happens that in the 1970's Walter and William had built one for the US Gov. and they arrive in Germany the day the Germans switch theirs on! In addition Hans was almost killed and Walter started to fade away...as Bell gives the BTTF theory that if Hans dies before Walter is born, then Walter can not exist. But they temp save Hans. Another discrepancy, or point of interest, is that Walter was born after Robert has died, as Robert's tomb stone from one of the season one epsiodes reads, he died 1944, when Walter was born in 1946! The comic book also says something wierd suggesting that maybe they didn't time travel to "their" past, but perhaps the other realities past, seeing as how it is already in some ways it is technologicly "ahead" of ours. Hans says to the other suspicious German soldier, "They're defectors, Klaus. If you haven't heard, Berlin is under siege. I had to us ALTERNATE means to bring them in."
In addition I stand by my cloning theory that Peter may be a clone of Walter, and/or Walter and Peter may be clones of Robert. The Nazi guy comments that Walter looks just like his father. And before he dies at the conference he grabs Peter by the throat and acts as though Peter is Robert.
Something to note: Hans/ Hans Solo (Olivia's nick name in boarding school)
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Over all I liked the episode, but it certainly wasn't fantastic. What was really interesting about this was the interactions between the characters, especially between Walter and Peter. And unfortunately there were a few cliches in the episode, but it looks hopeful that next week will make up for it.
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