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    Quote Originally Posted by Rook View Post

    Has anyone come up with why Newton made sure the middle of the bridge was gone in this universe, if he was exchanging the center of both triangles?
    He needed the water.

    Its either hyde park or the bridge. And the obvious choice is the bridge, because he needed the water to absorb the energy.

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    But there was already water near the bridge. Why take the middle out? Unless the middle was already absent, in which case maybe he had already chosen the location before finding this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rook View Post
    But there was already water near the bridge. Why take the middle out? Unless the middle was already absent, in which case maybe he had already chosen the location before finding this out.
    My guess is, still two objects cannot occupy the same space. So he found something in a location that was not present here but it was in AU. So to answer your question, the bridge was already absent[as mentioned by Peter, that it was condemned or something].

    Remember, there is no exchange taking place, just a transfer from whats over there to here. The bridge might have stayed here if it wasn't for the cancellation frequency of Walter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopFan View Post

    Remember, there is no exchange taking place, just a transfer from whats over there to here. The bridge might have stayed here if it wasn't for the cancellation frequency of Walter.
    But there was an exchange. Walter said during his toy car example that if you have rods in both universes, then the two objects will switch places. He said that that's how Newton found a way around the whole occupying the same space thing: because objects would switch places rather than a transfer. It would have been a transfer if Newton had only put rods in the AU, like walter and Bell had done when they put rods on their side to transfer the car to the AU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rook View Post
    But there was already water near the bridge. Why take the middle out? Unless the middle was already absent, in which case maybe he had already chosen the location before finding this out.
    The middle of the bridge was most likely already gone (old bridge was was already damaged).....I do not think this was a random choice and that he had made his decision before hand. Since we dont know Newton's side we can only speculate, but it would be simple enough to assume taht this was a pre-determined place. Remember that he had everyones (shapeshifters) assignments ready fro them whent they crossed over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rook View Post
    But there was an exchange. Walter said during his toy car example that if you have rods in both universes, then the two objects will switch places. He said that that's how Newton found a way around the whole occupying the same space thing: because objects would switch places rather than a transfer. It would have been a transfer if Newton had only put rods in the AU, like walter and Bell had done when they put rods on their side to transfer the car to the AU.

    I think he said an exchange would happen.....But it totally makes sense now that I have listend to it again.

    Walter said whatever was in the middle of the two triangles would exchange places, he never said it had to be the same "exact" thing on both sides. What we are doing is taking what was said earlier with the even mass\mass exchange.

    Newton took a space that was not occupied before (the condemed bridge) and occupied it with the intact bridge from the other side. The water was there to absorb the expended energy from the process.

    The exchange occured where our brigde would be exchanged for thier bridge, since the space was not already occupied, Newton wouldnt have the "mesh" happen as it did when he exchanged the buildings.

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    Why choose the bridge:

    - The water will absorb the energy. And obviously, the center of the water will work better than on just on the side of a water.

    - The bridge is ideal because in our universe, it's not intact. An exchange takes place by switching the space and the bridge.

    - It's also clear based on Walter's explanation, the key error in Newton's experiment in Jacksonville is that the building sent over here is occupied. Bringing it here would create a "mosaic" building. The experiment led to a more careful method, by sending over something here in a non-occupied space.

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    Triangulation on both sides determines the exact locations being switched.

    One thing still doesn't fit: Walter told Newton about the method he got Peter[thats the portal thing]. Still Newton used the triangulation method.

    @Rook: You're right, the exchange would be then between empty space and the middle of the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopFan View Post
    Triangulation on both sides determines the exact locations being switched.

    One thing still doesn't fit: Walter told Newton about the method he got Peter[thats the portal thing]. Still Newton used the triangulation method.

    @Rook: You're right, the exchange would be then between empty space and the middle of the bridge.
    Nobody knows what kind of information was extracted out of Walter's memory.

    Are YOU sure that the method Walter told was the portal on how he retrieve Peter? Even Walter doesn't even KNOW what he said to Newton.

    You are going along with assumptions. And one thing we have prove in this show is that the possibility is ENDLESS.

    - Dream Logic: Peter being taken out of the bed.
    - There's More Than One: Olivia teleporting to AU in the elevator.

    So, who knows if Newton was able to extract unimaginable amount of information from Walter.

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    Ok, I'll have to look up the old episode again. But it is an assumption, based on the buildup on what he was hiding, and thats taking Peter. So thats what I assumed.
    Hmph, could be smthng else, I'll just have to check it again.

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