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    Wink Dominant / Dominated ?

    You think Nina is dominant or dominated the other characters?

    For example with Olivia she feels it is dominant because it does not give any information on investigations.

    It tell you to exchange points of view through all the characters in the series, in one way or the other :

    Walter Vs Nina ?
    Peter VS Nina?
    Broyles vs. Nina ?
    Olivia VS Nina ?
    Astrid VS Nina ?
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    ok here's my take on it

    Walter vs. Nina
    I guess she must have been dominated before, but now has a clear advantage so she dominates over him.

    Peter vs. Nina
    She dominates. She knows much more than him. But eventually he might be able to dominate her. Peter is promising

    Broyles vs. Nina
    It's a tie. She knows all about science and he runs the Fringe division. There's a lot of info they share with each other that they wouldn't be able to get alone. It's like a symbiotic relationship. Ultimately, Nina would have an advantage though.

    Olivia vs. Nina
    This one is sad, really. Olivia never stood a chance and never will. Even being a cortexiphan kid.

    Astrid vs. Nina
    I'd never consider this one, but Astrid may become quite similar to Nina. Maybe less cold. Right now, Nina dominates.

    Nina is so badass and so beyond almost everyone else except Walter in scientific matters (and let's say Massive Dynamic also works like the Fringe division, so she has the security also) that it's going to take a while to dethrone the Queen

    That's my opinion.

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    Walter Vs Nina :

    I agree with you. But I think she still has some weaknesses face to the will of Walter. I wonder they have been their real relationships.

    Peter Vs Nina :

    Peter is promising, but also intelligent. But it does not seem to seek the truth around. He claims to be a good player poker and yet he does not exploit his gift. it would be fun to see them all play poker, betting candy.

    Broyles Vs Nina :

    Quote Originally Posted by Joana
    It's a tie.
    I do not understand the meaning of this sentence?!? It seems that she speaks when it suits him. As for the Observer or Olivia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joana
    It's like a symbiotic relationship
    I wonder if in season 3, we'll know more about both. But I also think it is she who has the advantage.

    Olivia Vs Nina :

    In fact, it must have the threat to obtain information.

    Astrid Vs Nina :

    Astrid listen carefully to what is said. I think it could have an advantage over Nina, if they talk more.

    Conclusion :


    Quote Originally Posted by Joana
    ...To dethrone the Queen
    I love your conclusion. It is true that Nina is an ambiguous character, it seems flawless. In your opinion, what is it repressed feelings that may be its Achilles heel? Through the season 1 and 2, we see that it provides information when it is threatened or has escaped death.
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    Sam vs Nina => SAM will dominate, 100%!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutsie View Post
    Sam vs Nina => SAM will dominate, 100%!

    Yeah, I forgot Sam

    If you want to tell us your views with others or not. You do not have.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibi View Post
    I do not understand the meaning of this sentence?!?

    I wonder if in season 3, we'll know more about both. But I also think it is she who has the advantage.
    It means that there's no real domination going on between Broyles and Nina. They both like to be on top, but in different ways. She keeps her power, he keeps "saving the day". They might look like competitors but we've had a glance at how close they really are, which suggests neither is trying to frame each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bibi View Post

    I love your conclusion. It is true that Nina is an ambiguous character, it seems flawless. In your opinion, what is it repressed feelings that may be its Achilles heel? Through the season 1 and 2, we see that it provides information when it is threatened or has escaped death.
    I think so yes, Nina has learned to grow cold. We saw her with Walter in "Peter", she showed a lot more emotion. And when Walter couldn't cope when Tyler kidnapped Peter in "Of Human Action" Nina sort of took pity, maybe for the old days and how close they were and helped calm him down. Which tells us that the old Nina is still there, she's just hidden behind the whole "Iron Fist" protection barrier.

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    "Iron first" What is it? I'm not sure I understand.

    Finally we can say that she has a good background ? Finally ... in certain situations ???

    So she dominates the youngest and is dominated by others?
    Last edited by Bibi; 06-02-2010 at 11:09 AM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibi View Post
    "Iron first" What is it? I'm not sure I understand.
    iron fist
    n.
    Rigorous or despotic control: ruled the nation with an iron fist.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bibi View Post
    Finally we can say that she has a good background ? Finally ... in certain situations ???
    I think she has a good background and will help in anything that helps her too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bibi View Post
    So she dominates the youngest and is dominated by others?
    I wouldn't generalize it that way. She dominates because she KNOWS more, she's more into Fringe science than almost anyone except Walter. It's not a matter of age, but a matter of experience.

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    oki, I understand now.
    It's quite strange that she knows many things about science but it does not give an answers pure. To explain by Brandon.
    Last edited by Bibi; 06-02-2010 at 12:32 PM.




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    well, now she's the COO of MD. Brandon is much more into the scientific area now, Nina is sort of a retired scientist, so for an updated look at whatever scientific case they're on, Brandon would do a better job at explaining. That's what I think.

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