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    Nazi UFO stuff: http://video.google.com/googleplayer...23855480311871

    Wicked ass anti-gravity stuff: the hutchinson effect: John Hutchison - The Hutchison Effect - Seattle Presentation

    http://evolutionezine.com/hutchison-effect

    Al bieleik, philadelphia experiment survivor shows photo of invisible man: http://www.youtube.com/v/S3ON9iLF-Aw

    Most of the stuff I posted in the other thread of mine (torsion science etc) here is also related to much conspiracy science (philadeliphia, psychic mind powers, free energy, time travel, teleportation, free energy etc.....So if any of these vids makes you curious, check that other one out for the technical level understanding....

    Anyone else got any articles or vids on fringe science related to conspiracies or secret goverment projects?
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    I can't understand....I'm italian
    What they are talking about?

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    Lol, ive never watched them (ive got dial-up only), they are just popular ones on things I already know about.

    The nazi's and americans both tried to develop UFO craft, presumably retro-engineered from crashed ones. They failed because even nuclear power couldnt generate the energy needed for the craft. But both countries have admitted to trying to make flying saucer craft....I presume the first video is about this...

    The hutchinson thing. Well its a dude, an america, who made this generator based on tesla coils (tesla was an early american scientist, who is well known for fringe science inventions). The generator just does all these really weird things like makes things levitate, metals melt while cool and other strange things. Cool to see

    And the philadelphia project was a related science, using the "torsion" energy made by things like the tesla coil, they tried to create radar invisibility (us military). Instead, the ship and crew just dissappeared - and apparently travelled breifly in time. The video here, apparently is about some actual invisible person that the device was able to effect.

    (although ive not seen any of them, i know the topics, and these are popular vids on the topics)
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    Man, this guy looks like a hippie straight out of the 1960's.

    That's doesn't help much with trying to believe him. The other thing is the lack of scientific approach. He just fires up his devices and hopes for the best. You'd expect that he would have some kind of detectors to give him an idea of the field location being generated. Or keep track of his experimental methods so he could REPRODUCE the effects reliably. Perhaps he should team up with a scientist who isn't threatened by his eccentricity and help him with it. Otherwise, he seems like a quack. He has video taped projects where he has been unable to reproduce them... so in his lectures, he shows this really old video tape, not something far more current. Doesn't look good for him.

    The alleged examples of levitation are intriguing... and from what people have described about UFO encounters, it sounds like the same nature of their propulsion. Not only the levitation of the craft having no sound, but also the effects of significant static electricity being felt in the area. Often UFO's have been spotted near electric power stations and power lines. Re-energizing their "batteries" perhaps? Hutchison says that the energy employed in levitating objects was about 75 watts. Hardly anything, compared to power consumption of an electric car.

    By the way, did anyone here see "Men Who Stare At Goats"? Col. John Alexander said he had a psi-ops project in the military... sounds like the same thing!
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    The alleged examples of levitation are intriguing... and from what people have described about UFO encounters, it sounds like the same nature of their propulsion. Not only the levitation of the craft having no sound, but also the effects of significant static electricity being felt in the area.
    If you read up on torsion science, electromagnetism and electrostatics are reliable torsion generators (along with shape, certain materials, rotation and a few more things) - which is what creates all of these effects, anti-gravity, even teleportation, time-travel and the like, according reports.

    basically, a powerful device is a combination of the above features, combined in such a way, with such a shape/configuration that it emphasizes the right "frequency" for a given effect, like anti-grav for example.

    So yeah, there will always be both magnetism, and static there. Its alluded to in lots of sci-fi too, including in fringe and lost, because people like tesla are well known, or fairly well known, and electricity has always been seen as semi-mystical. JJ's must be a fan of alt-science and folks like tesla.

    According to reports, the usa and german militarys failed to reproduce UFOs because of a high energy requirement - but that may be because they are much bigger, or because of their space-folding/bending elements (that enable then to travel so fast, and FTL etc)

    Basic torsion generators themselves dont use a lot of power. You can buy them from a russian dude on the net, but they dont levitate things, although they do have some odd effects on the conciousness, body and mind, and can be detected (the feild generated can be measured and confirmed)

    The ones that claim anti-grav, no one has ever backed that up. theres quite a few. Same with free energy. hard to tell if they are being silenced, or if they are lying. Its all certainly possible according to existing experiment based theory, but its hard to verify much...

    The thread I started on torsion science has an amateur science page on alternative science stuff - In there, there are actual experiments and things to check out, so the basics are much more tangible...
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    interesting but I guess the theories that they assume too old

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