I was thinking that the Polish chip was a plot device to find Joseph Heller. It was new- so it stood out and was noticed. Its newness also made Broyles think of a fingerprint from the installer being on it. Then it was traceable as it had to have a delivery address connected to it, being Polish. All of it led to finding Heller.
Then finding Heller led to them knowing he was a shapeshifter, and also knowing that the other side was behind leading them to the clues about the pieces. And that Walternate wanted them to find the pieces and work on them.
I don't think that Walternate really wanted them to know it was him- the shapeshifter may have gone too far in attacking the plane- since that refuted the idea that people were being pulsed to stop them from cracking the code. The pilot wasn't trying to do anything with the numbers. Altlivia said they were just trying to get the Fringe group's attention. I think she was forced to get rid of Heller to minimize the info he gave up- but she couldn't hide that he was a shapeshifter.
So that is what the writers wanted, and what they used to do it.
They also had to disable the spine chip in Heller-I thought it was funny how easily Peter pulled it out, and how conveniently it was damaged. I guess Altlivia could have done it before dropping him out the window.
If they are really on the ball they may tie "Polish " in to some other part of the story, but it seems to me that now that they are telling a story that had to go on a certain path- the two worlds conflict- that they have to do a bit more twisting people and events to fit, and to follow the rules they have established. It's easier with the stand alone episodes, where you mostly have to just be consistent within one show.
Last edited by JustThinking; 11-13-2010 at 07:23 PM.
She had to have shot him in the back. Another thing that we can clearly notice that the big FBI guys failed to. BOlivia told Peter that (paraphrasing) he rushed her and she had no choice but to shoot him. Wouldn't that put the bullets in his front side, not his lower spine?Originally Posted by JustThinking
OK, this probably belongs somewhere else...
Isn't that Joseph Feller?
But the people 'over here' do not know that Walternate was orchestrating their finding of the machine parts. They believe that what Feller was doing was intent on stopping them from cracking the number stations' code. But, of course, they were manipulated into that discovery. If they did know of the manipulation, they would likely realize Olivia isn't herself.
The reason Altlivia killed the shapeshifter Feller was that he was no longer useful and he was found out. "Phase 1" was over, Astrid had broken the code. As Altlivia has said she can always make friends with a vacuum. There are likely plenty of shapeshifters in our universe which she can employ as her operatives.
I don't know that Altlivia shot Feller in the back. She is an expert shot (didn't she win an Olympic medal?) she could have shot him from the front and destroyed the disk.
Oh yes- you're right- it's Feller.
And oops- yes I see they didn't make the Walternate pushing Peter connection yet--but ,darn it- they should have! There really wasn't any reason to pulse the pilot, other than to make them look at the numbers.
Sorry, I'll try to be more accurate!
The plane crash was an accident. The pilot changed frequencies when the tower signal was interrupted by the storm.
After discovering the shapeshifter, Broyles said he (still) thought Walternate was "protecting the code", but Astrid figured out from the Medford location that they were being manipulated and the others knew once the Jersey City object turned out to be part of the machine.
I have no doubt that the Fringe staff does extensive research when writing scripts.
However, I noticed a considerable mistake in this episode:
An FET (field-effect transistor) in Polish is called "tranzystor polowy". If anything, the words written on the chip should be "efekt pola" instead of "dziedzinie efekt".
The word "dziedzina" (not "dziedzinie" as seen in the episode) does mean "field", but in a completely different sense than intended. I won't even mention the incorrect grammar phrasing (if they really wanted to use the words "dziedzina" and "efekt", they should in reversed order - "efekt dziedziny").
Just thought y'all would want to know.
Not knowing the Polish language, I was wondering about whether the sense was correct or the word order. Someone looked up the Polish word for field and ended up with a farm field instead of a EM field. Probably used FreeTranslation.com just like I did to see what it said.
I must say I love it when they Dutch thingies.... In 6955kHz the counting happened in Dutch and well euhm the man who brought that virus in "epi 2-12 What Lies Below" was Dutch as well... So YAY for the German, Dutch and Polish stuffies in Fringe!!!
I gotta agree - I love spotting Polish inclusions on TV shows and movies. But when they do happen, I expect them to be correct (not to mention well-researched).
I mean, I know Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source of information, but if the Fringe-staff had checked the "FET" entry on Wiki, they'd have no problem with finding the correct Polish terminology.
Besides, from what I know, finding a Polish person in the USA isn't that hard to do. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to help. Using an on-line translator?... not cool.
nope its not just go to Chicago lol.
but it does have to mean something that they went to all this trouble for a simple prop. I'd like to think there is more to the Polish side, but if there isn't its not the end of the world.....or is it?
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