"COLONEL" Broyles?!

[Avenged]

I can't be the only one to catch this massive little slip here.

When Broyles identified himself over the phone in his office, he referred to himself as "COLONEL Broyles of the FBI".

Yep, "COLONEL", exactly the same rank and salutation for AltBroyles. Did Lance Reddick just make a mistake after playing dual roles for awhile? Or is this a tiny hint at something larger?

Could the death and presence of AltBroyles in close proximity of Broyles somehow cause parts of his mental psyche to slip into Broyles?

Okay, that's probably bull, but the little slip still struck me quite significantly.

[fringe dork]

I think OurBroyles was always a Colonel...I may be wrong but that's what I always thought

[Omniscient_Jay]

I can't be the only one to catch this massive little slip here.

When Broyles identified himself over the phone in his office, he referred to himself as "COLONEL Broyles of the FBI".

Yep, "COLONEL", exactly the same rank and salutation for AltBroyles. Did Lance Reddick just make a mistake after playing dual roles for awhile? Or is this a tiny hint at something larger?

Could the death and presence of AltBroyles in close proximity of Broyles somehow cause parts of his mental psyche to slip into Broyles?

Okay, that's probably bull, but the little slip still struck me quite significantly.

It isn't a slip-up at all, actually. It is a well documented fact that Over Here Broyles was once a Colonel in the army before joining the FBI.

The main evidence for this was a scene in the season 2 premiere, "A New Day in the Old Town," where Broyles is in Washington negotiating further funding for the Fringe Division.

Here is the transcript from that particular scene:

SENATOR: Unsubstantited claims of invasion. Reports of technology run amok. The old "X" designation and your fringe investigations have been indulgences in the federal budget for over half a century. Well, the salad days are over, Mister Broyles.

BROYLES: Colonel.

SENATOR: Excuse me?

BROYLES: ...or Special Agent, as you'd prefer, Senator.

NEIL SCHELL: Colonel Broyles. Now look, listen, we all have a job here, and we--

BROYLES: Yes, Senator, I have a job. The same job I have had in three administrations and six wars. To defend our national security. And I assure you we are not secure. Yes, sometimes a threat is familiar. But I have come to learn that sometimes it is far worse -- and when it is worse, when the threat is unimaginable, that is when we are at the door. And you should thank God for that.

NEIL SCHELL: (calmly) Phillip, without something usable, something to support the human and fiscal cost... I - I'm sorry.

They haven't really touched upon Broyles and his past as a Colonel since then, so I can understand how one could have forgotten.

In any case, it goes to show how similar the lives of people and their alternates really are.

[Avenged]

@Fringe Dork: Ha, I suppose Jay proved you right

@Jay: Ah ha! So it's my failing memory and not a slip-up after all. Thanks for the clarification. I remember that scene well enough, although I clearly didn't pay enough attention to it. You really live up to your avatar of being an "Observer"

In any case, good cross referencing with AltBroyles, since Over There, Fringe Division seems to be amalgamated in some way with the military.

But if that's the case, I wonder why Broyles identified himself with the Colonel salutation when he's almost never done so (in my poor memory, at least). It's usually been "Agent Broyles", as far as I can remember.

Oh, and where else is Broyles' Army past mentioned? I'd like to read up on it - It's interesting, given how he's tasked to head Fringe.

[Omniscient_Jay]

@Fringe Dork: Ha, I suppose Jay proved you right

@Jay: Ah ha! So it's my failing memory and not a slip-up after all. Thanks for the clarification. I remember that scene well enough, although I clearly didn't pay enough attention to it. You really live up to your avatar of being an "Observer"

In any case, good cross referencing with AltBroyles, since Over There, Fringe Division seems to be amalgamated in some way with the military.

But if that's the case, I wonder why Broyles identified himself with the Colonel salutation when he's almost never done so (in my poor memory, at least). It's usually been "Agent Broyles", as far as I can remember.

Oh, and where else is Broyles' Army past mentioned? I'd like to read up on it - It's interesting, given how he's tasked to head Fringe.

Perhaps he used his title as leverage. After all, "Colonel" has more weight to it than "Agent".

And unfortunately, there hasn't been much exploration into Philip's military past apart from that scene in episode 2.01, so I can't really help you there.

They'll probably delve into it at some point, though.

[*anna*]

Do you think it`s possible that they switched the two Broyles` before, so that it is OurBroyles who is dead?

[Omniscient_Jay]

Do you think it`s possible that they switched the two Broyles` before, so that it is OurBroyles who is dead?

Everything is possible.

However, it is very highly improbable.

[Ondomir]

I can't be the only one to catch this massive little slip here.

When Broyles identified himself over the phone in his office, he referred to himself as "COLONEL Broyles of the FBI".

Yep, "COLONEL", exactly the same rank and salutation for AltBroyles. Did Lance Reddick just make a mistake after playing dual roles for awhile? Or is this a tiny hint at something larger?

Definitely not a slip, he's referenced twice as such in the episode:

http://fringe-forum.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=43

[jophan]

I don't think Broyles has ever been FBI, either. He's Homeland Security. I don't know if that would allow him to still be on active duty. At least once that I recall Olivia has identified herself as HS instead of FBI, and Peter's ID has always said Consultant to HS.

[RETLAW]

Perhaps he used his title as leverage. After all, "Colonel" has more weight to it than "Agent".

And some awesome pwnage with the line "Yes it's urgent. Immediately means urgent." - snap-