3.10 "The Firefly" - Disappointed

[bookworm2342]

This thread is only for aspects of 3.10 "The Firefly" that has left you feeling disappointed. We believe that people have the right to enjoy Fringe whilst not necessarily loving everything about a particular episode.

There is, of course, a line between flaming, bashing and abuse. These things we won't tolerate. But you are, of course, allowed to say if you were disappointed by certain aspects and explain your reasons why in a constructive and mature way.

Feel free to stop by the main discussion thread to share your overall thoughts, or post new threads for specific tangents!

[jay_eilthabhae]

If it wasn't for a great and moving performance by Christopher Lloyd and the beautiful representation of the chemistry between Lloyd and Noble, I would have rated this episode to be the most disappointing one after Brown Betty......

Why? Well, here's why:-

The 10th episode of Fringe in the last 2 seasons have always been the most interesting ones in terms of the mythology, Season 1's 10th episode showed the shocking teleportation scene of Mr. Jones, which had set the pace and mood of Fringe. Season 2's 10th episode revealed a huge plot about Walter's brain and who removed parts of it, along with hinting at what Walter could be WITH those tissues (and memories) back in his brains. Considering that, what in the blue hell did this episode offer???

It din have the intrigue and knowledge of a typical standalone, neither did it have any MAJOR significance of a mthyological episode. The entire angle of Bobby and his father seemed entirely FORCED considering what the observer wanted to do, I mean there are many ways to check if Walter could sacrifice Peter or not.......not to mention the whole "He is still alive" angle was also quite stupid, as Peter himself says, "There are many different ways he could have saved your life walter", I dont think Walter's justification of "they are not humans" was not at all satisfactory and seemed more like a convenience typically used by mediocre writers

There was no IMPACT revelation in such an important episode, no new answers either.....when the episode started, I was really excited as I thought they are going to connect Bobby's death and Peter very beautifully in terms of the mythology, but it ended up being as a stand alone forced angle. I also thought that there will be more insights about Walter's missing memory but even that wasn't to be.

All in all, I would give this episode a 6/10 and all 6 goes to Noble and Lloyd's amazing acting and chemistry....otherwise, as a 10th episode storyline part, it was a major DUD

[Joanna]

The only thing that disappointed me in this beautiful episode was that it was too short - the fun ended too quickly

[lakeofrage]

The one thing that really disappointed me about this episode was the fact that there were no Firefly references. Especially after I had read the the title of this episode was meant to be a reference to Firefly, and how it was cancelled after one season after it was moved to Fridays. Otherwise, I enjoyed the episode quite a bit.

[Omniscient_Jay]

The one thing that really disappointed me about this episode was the fact that there were no Firefly references. Especially after I had read the the title of this episode was meant to be a reference to Firefly, and how it was cancelled after one season after it was moved to Fridays. Otherwise, I enjoyed the episode quite a bit.

The episode was written before the move to Friday was announced, so it's merely a coincidence (albeit a rather neat one).

[Polka Dot Gene]

Well, let's start by saying that I really enjoyed this episode for a whole host of reasons. However, one thing did annoy me. Once again, in order to service the plot, Peter's IQ takes a massive dip.

Are you really trying to tell me, Mr. Writer, that by this point Peter hasn't learned that you never EVER eat or drink anything left lying around in Walter's lab? Seriously? Puhlease. Sorry, not buying it.

What's especially irksome is that this could have been so easily solved just by having them return to Walter and Peter's apartment instead of the lab. There was no reason they couldn't have done, no reason in particular it had to be the lab.

Given Walter's propensity for having much of his research stuff in the apartment, as well as the lab, the ingredients needed to save Peter could easily have been there for Olivia to use, but Peter thinking nothing of drinking milk from the fridge would have been more more logical.

[collectivesoul]

1. Walter needed to label that milk since he has a penchant for labeling.

2. Peter probably assumed that anything in the fridge was safe; he's had soda and other things taken from it before.

Something we learn about Peter: He drinks straight from the jug! ew

[RoughDiamonds]

Something we learn about Peter: He drinks straight from the jug! ew

Well, I don't think he can trust the flasks and beakers around him. No matter how many times they been sterilized/autoclaved.

[monne]

Are you really trying to tell me, Mr. Writer, that by this point Peter hasn't learned that you never EVER eat or drink anything left lying around in Walter's lab? Seriously? Puhlease. Sorry, not buying it.

Oh come on! He's just hit his head in a car crash, been knocked over by a motorcycle and almost killed by another two cars, and been shot, hitting his head AGAIN, and had a guaranteed concussion by the time he got back to the lab. I don't think IQ has anything to do with the fact that Peter wasn't thinking quite as clearly as one would expect.

All he was trying to do was take some Aspirin to get rid of a frigging headache. God forbid he wasn't functioning well enough to consider the unmarked bottle of milk in the fridge might be POISONED.

[theNomadz]

Not sure if I loved it or not, I did love the father/son themes in both the central story of Walt/Pete and the sub one with Lloyd & his late son. And like mentioned the chemistry between Noble/Lloyd was a treat.

who observes the Observers

But I was left pretty puzzled by this episode as well, was great moments with the Observer best being the tale he told of Peter catching the firefly which set about events that a girl miles down the street wouldn't catch it so keeping her out later which ended with her father dying before his time.

My disappointment was with the Observers proof Walter would let Peter die, what actually proved to them he'd of let that happen, by handing him the keys ? hardly like putting a gun to is own sons head. Walter knows Peters in a dangerous job daily being with the fringe team. And why would it matter to the Observers if Walter would let Peter die or not, if its his ultimate fate to die or cross to the other universe to bring about balance doesn't seem Walter or anyone could stop the Observers doing what they need to do.