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    Roscoe made me laugh when he called her "Kelly" I couldn't understand if he did on purpose, just because he had noticed that Walter always forget her name, or if it was a real mistake. In this case I find quite odd that he remembered her surname (during the episode, when he tells Walter she had come back from the market) but not her name... "Miss Farnsworth" is much more challenging than "Astrid"

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    Closed captioning isn't always right, though. I don't believe it comes from official souses, either does it? I don't have any solid examples to show you, but I have seen mistakes in the closed captions before. This could be one of them.

    I also thought that perhaps there is a missing scene in this episode. Like we all know, there is so much *important* stuff going on in this one that there may not have been room enough for an Astrid scene with Roscoe. Maybe there was a conversation between them when she brought the strawberry ice cream back to the lab? They could have discussed something from which the name Kelly, Kali, or whatever appeared.

    Whatever the case, he doesn't call her by her name. That's for sure. Whatever the reasoning or meaning behind it, I believe she reacts with a very friendly, affectionate sort of smile. I get the feeling that she simply ignores all the silly names that Walter calls her, but this one seemed a little different to me, like it had more meaning for her. Any one else?

    On another note, I too heard Kali at first. I had to think on it and then thought he said Kelly. On other viewings I heard Kelly at first... and then on another viewing (I wasn't paying much attention, I was talking with a friend) I thought I heard Kali again. Could it be Cali? Short for California? Maybe they had a discussion about when they were kids or something while talking over ice cream.

    Oh and I'm looking for names that sound like the above... This is kinda interesting about the name 'Kallista':
    http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Kallista

    And Callisto:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_%28mythology%29

    And Kali, the goddess of Time and Change; The figure of Kali conveys death, destruction, and the consuming aspects of reality. As such, she is also a "forbidden thing", or even death itself,etc.:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali

    Totally no clue whether or not there indeed *IS* deeper meaning in the funky name Roscoe gave Astrid in this episode, but it is rather interesting looking at these other possibilities. I especially like the mythology behind the Hindi goddess Kali. I'm done editing this post for a while. lol
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    Perhaps Kelly was one of Roscoe's old groupies.

    In any case, he either forgot her name, or confused her with someone else. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekka View Post
    Closed captioning isn't always right, though. I don't believe it comes from official souses, either does it? I don't have any solid examples to show you, but I have seen mistakes in the closed captions before. This could be one of them.
    I work in TV, and can say that no, CC is most definitely NOT always right. Sometimes its rather hilariously wrong, in fact! I'm not sure how FOX captions, however, I would assume that something like Fringe is done prior to air, or via official services to the network, versus the live-from-air services like we use with our mostly-live programming.

    I heard Kelly, which I took to be a play on Walter's always mistaking her name. Since it was mostly W/R/A together, perhaps he didn't realize her name really was Astrid, since Walter was calling her something different every time he spoke to her.

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    kelly describes a shade of green. ashram is where Sikhs exercise their mana (mind).

    it's a stretch, but she was called kelly and ashram -- green mana --isn'tthat the missing track on the Violet Sedan Chair album?

    Just fun to make wild connections...

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    it's a stretch, but she was called kelly and ashram -- green mana --isn'tthat the missing track on the Violet Sedan Chair album?
    Fun.

    Just after "Kelly"/"Cally" there's an editing glitch. Astrid said goodbye and left the room, but a little later there's another shot of her in the room. I don't necessarily think there's any meaning there, but we notice these things.

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    Geez! You guys are right!!! we do analyse a little too much, but that's why we are fringe fans I guess

    And about this whole kelly thing, as far as I am concerned, I thought I heard "Curly" (referring to Astrid's curly hair)......I don't believe subtitles are from official sources and I mostly believe in what I heard....

    It could also be a scene which later got edited where this whole "kelly" thing could have been explained(you know during editing some scenes have to be taken out due to random reasons)....

    But personally I think he called "curly" instead of kelly.....makes much more sense to me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_eilthabhae View Post
    Geez! You guys are right!!! we do analyse a little too much, but that's why we are fringe fans I guess

    And about this whole kelly thing, as far as I am concerned, I thought I heard "Curly" (referring to Astrid's curly hair)......I don't believe subtitles are from official sources and I mostly believe in what I heard....

    It could also be a scene which later got edited where this whole "kelly" thing could have been explained(you know during editing some scenes have to be taken out due to random reasons)....

    But personally I think he called "curly" instead of kelly.....makes much more sense to me....
    Well... we can wait for the DVD.

    But 95% of the time it's correct, as the CC is serviced by the people behind Fringe.

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