Peter and O have more in common than we know
To all passionate shippers out there:
We know (sort of) that they both have been experimented as children. While we know what was used on Olivia, and do not precisely know why, we still have not been told clearly what has been used on Peter.
But I have a guess why: Walter never cured Peter. Instead, he developed a treatment, for lack of a better word, that made him important. Indispensable. He created a treatment that made the Observers preserve him.
The clue for my theory is in episode 2.8, where he tells August that the only way for the girl to survive is to make her important. (And be prepared to face the consequences)
In a later episode Walter mentions that Peter's illness miraculously disappeared. Genetic diseases do not disappear miraculously.. (It is why William Bell said that Peter was holding up better that he'd thought. It is why the first thing Walter did when he saw him at the mental ward was to check his eyes/vitals.)
This is what Walter did, and he remembers. But he's not telling anyone, at least not yet. He made the other Peter important, so he would not die as well. This is why Peter can operate the machine - Walter made him what he is. And that makes him uniquely linked to O. So, even if he enjoyed the fun FO, in the end, he's as dark, and as damaged, and exactly as un-fixable as Olivia. My guess is, once he finds out (a back-into-the past episode is coming up soon), it would bring them closer than anything before.
Good theory. But where did the picture of Peter with the machine and DNA sequence come from, if he didn't become "compatible" with machine until 1985? Pic seems a little first people-esque vs. old observer. Also begs the question: if the machine was used before and is only attuned to Peter, then how in the heck was it used before he was born?
Good point. However, this issue is very easy to fix once we assume that the Observers observe time. How does Sam Weiss write a book in the 18th century? How do they pluck people from the past? I see no problem with planting a drawing in the past, if time is no longer linear.Originally Posted by FringeBinge
My guess is that Peter was MADE to be attuned to the machine, by Walter. The machine is not attuned to Peter, Peter is attuned to the machine. This is what Walter wanted to hide from Simon (with the series of crazy thoughts), not just Peter's kidnapping.
I bet I'm right about this - or at least somewhat right
Unfortunately, if I'm right, it would also mean that once Peter operates the machine, he will no longer be important.
I really like this. So you think that if the machine has been used before to create or destroy a universe, then someone besides Peter powered it? Also, did Walter know about the machine when he made Peter important?Good point. However, this issue is very easy to fix once we assume that the Observers observe time. How does Sam Weiss write a book in the 18th century? How do they pluck people from the past? I see no problem with planting a drawing in the past, if time is no longer linear.
My guess is that Peter was MADE to be attuned to the machine, by Walter. The machine is not attuned to Peter, Peter is attuned to the machine. This is what Walter wanted to hide from Simon (with the series of crazy thoughts), not just Peter's kidnapping.
I bet I'm right about this - or at least somewhat right
Yes, I think both Walter and William Bell knew about the machine, the first people, take your pick.
Walter tried for a long time to find a cure for Peter, and he was unsuccessful. So then he solved the problem out of the box - instead of curing Peter, he made him important.
In Ep 2.8 he basically tells August that's the only solution (to remind you, August wanted to save a girl from an airplane crash, a girl he though was important, and a girl the others thought was not).
This also ties very well with the drawing predicting that Peter will die using the machine (after he serves his purpose, he will no longer be important).
I would venture a guess that Walternate did not know that, and it is possible that FO will enlighten him on the subject in the upcoming episode. After all, he's just like Walter - and he would not want to see his son die, exactly as much as Walter wouldn't. It would also play nicely in an attempt to humanize Walternate.
good theoryTo all passionate shippers out there:
We know (sort of) that they both have been experimented as children. While we know what was used on Olivia, and do not precisely know why, we still have not been told clearly what has been used on Peter.
But I have a guess why: Walter never cured Peter. Instead, he developed a treatment, for lack of a better word, that made him important. Indispensable. He created a treatment that made the Observers preserve him.
The clue for my theory is in episode 2.8, where he tells August that the only way for the girl to survive is to make her important. (And be prepared to face the consequences)
In a later episode Walter mentions that Peter's illness miraculously disappeared. Genetic diseases do not disappear miraculously.. (It is why William Bell said that Peter was holding up better that he'd thought. It is why the first thing Walter did when he saw him at the mental ward was to check his eyes/vitals.)
This is what Walter did, and he remembers. But he's not telling anyone, at least not yet. He made the other Peter important, so he would not die as well. This is why Peter can operate the machine - Walter made him what he is. And that makes him uniquely linked to O. So, even if he enjoyed the fun FO, in the end, he's as dark, and as damaged, and exactly as un-fixable as Olivia. My guess is, once he finds out (a back-into-the past episode is coming up soon), it would bring them closer than anything before.
but in peter's episodes august tells september that "the boy is significant" before he was brought by walter to our universe
It doesn't really gel for me.
Travelling between worlds was unique to Bell/Walter, it was their collaboration. It was blue universe Walter's hole that started off the chain of events, prompted by the need to save peter.
At the time red universe walter is seeking a cure for his son he isn't even aware of a need for the vacuum device let alone the need to make his son able to activate it.
The observer visits Walternate's lab to observe the cure being made, and mistakenly causes Walternate to miss the chemical reaction.
When he returns to his compatriots he admits the error and they determine another chance to cure Peter will present its self. I took this to mean saving Peter and Walter from the icy lake, which happens soon after.
Yet Walter mentions in many episodes he doesn't know why the Observer saved them. You could pass this off as memory loss, but I don't buy it.
If it turns out that observers only watch events unique to each universe, its possible that Walternate's Peter is the only one to survive out of all potential universes. It also follows that their rapid increase in detection in the blue universe is due to Peter's unique status. Everything he does is a unique event.
Its never mentioned what age Peter is referring to when he makes the throw away comment about being experimented on as a child, let alone the nature of the tests. Which Walter did it to him? red universe walter never participated in tests on children because he never met Bell. Fauxlivia needs harmonic rods to cross over.
Its definitely possible that Sam is an agent for the observers (recall they also had a hit man working for them) and was moved through time to facilitate the activation of vacuum device, given his knowledge of it.
Its also possible someone p@#sed in Peter's gene pool to make the machine activate but I just don't think it was Walternates cure that made it so.
Damn, now that I think about it...
Peter assumes the machine in blue universe is reacting to him, just like the one in red universe did.
What if blue universe's machine is actually reacting to Olivia who enters the building at the same time (and Peter's nosebleed is an adverse reaction to being near the wrong machine).
Then they really would have something in common!And Olivia has to give Peter up to the red universe so they can use both machines to save both worlds.
Then Peter gets his tragic romance, just like Casablanca! (he can't return because he's crossed too many times and would blow up like Bell).
Interesting idea, with the adverse reaction. But you forget that itīs Peters face on the prophetic drawing, not Oliviaīs. And the "darkness" Peter develops (hunting down the shapeshifters without mercy) seems to indicate that Peter connected to the machine.
How often has Peter crossed until now?Then they really would have something in common!
Then Peter gets his tragic romance, just like Casablanca! (he can't return because he's crossed too many times and would blow up like Bell).
1. when Walter kidnapped him
2. when Walternate took him back
3. when he was brought back again to the blue world
Well, you canīt be sure, but I always assumed that Bell crossed over REALLY often (he said so himself, although I canīt remember his exact words). So I guess that crossing over becomes only dangerous when you make it a habit (like Bell did for many years).
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