Walternates Feelings about Peter and the Baby

[Duque de Osuna]

When Walter was talking to what I assume was his mistress he seemed to show genuine sadness that Peter had chosen to go back to the other universe. Was this because he felt a sense of loss as a father or because his plans to use Peter to destroy our universe had been thwarted? I also could not help but wonder whether his apparent excitement about Faulivia's pregnancy was the result of some level of excitement about being a grandfather or some sinister hope of exploiting the existence of Peter's son or daughter to lure his own son back to his universe where he can once again try to convince him to step into the doomsday device? I cannot decide just how calculating this guy is, I would like to hear the thoughts of others.

[Mancha]

When Walter was talking to what I assume was his mistress he seemed to show genuine sadness that Peter had chosen to go back to the other universe. Was this because he felt a sense of loss as a father or because his plans to use Peter to destroy our universe had been thwarted? I also could not help but wonder whether his apparent excitement about Faulivia's pregnancy was the result of some level of excitement about being a grandfather or some sinister hope of exploiting the existence of Peter's son or daughter to lure his own son back to his universe where he can once again try to convince him to step into the doomsday device? I cannot decide just how calculating this guy is, I would like to hear the thoughts of others.

You know, I was thinking the same thing... Thanks for posting this! Well said!

~Mancha~

[crocodilian]

When Walter was talking to what I assume was his mistress he seemed to show genuine sadness that Peter had chosen to go back to the other universe. Was this because he felt a sense of loss as a father or because his plans to use Peter to destroy our universe had been thwarted?

Up to this point, Walternate has been a fairly malevolent guy, albeit one who perhaps had good reason.

He agreed to a vivisection on Olivia without missing a beat, for example.

This was a new, gentler Walternate.

[AltAnna]

I wonder about that too.

Honestly, I don't know. I felt Walter were genuine when he said he wouldn't test on children. And I guess having his son abducted and not having Bell on his side have made Walternate a bit different from Walter, but at the same time, I wonder if he will test his own grandson/granddaughter?

[Duque de Osuna]

Up to this point, Walternate has been a fairly malevolent guy, albeit one who perhaps had good reason.

He agreed to a vivisection on Olivia without missing a beat, for example.

This was a new, gentler Walternate.

That is a good point, he was ready to have Olivia put down to have her brain studied. He also did not show any emotion when he said that all those people they had shot up with Cortexepham died within 30 minutes of exposure to the drug. It is odd that he could be so callous on the one hand and then be so against harming children.

I just re-watched that scene and I am pretty convinced that he sees Peter as a means to an end, not a son.

[jay_eilthabhae]

I feel Walternate has become so complicated because of how he was PUSHED to become so cold and take heartless decisions.........which is unlike Walter, who did a lot of things, just because he wanted to know lot more than he should.....Walternate really rues the fact that Peter chose to go back to the blue verse, he was hurt, and when he heard of Fauxlivia's pregnancy, he really thought it was a great way to get Peter back.

Does he really know that using the machine would kill Peter?? I am not sure, hell, I am not sure if any of us know it for a fact that it WILL kill Peter, for all we know, that drawing of peter and the machine is signifying something else......so it is incorrect to assume that Walternate wants to use Peter and let him die to save his world.

[Roxiestar74]

That is a good point, he was ready to have Olivia put down to have her brain studied. He also did not show any emotion when he said that all those people they had shot up with Cortexepham died within 30 minutes of exposure to the drug. It is odd that he could be so callous on the one hand and then be so against harming children.

I just re-watched that scene and I am pretty convinced that he sees Peter as a means to an end, not a son.

I totally agree with everything you have said. Not only was he willing to kill Olivia, but she is the woman his son loves, so if he really cared about his son, he wouldn't want any harm to come to her. Because of this, I see Peter as a means to an end for him as well.

[mj07]

I totally agree with everything you have said. Not only was he willing to kill Olivia, but she is the woman his son loves, so if he really cared about his son, he wouldn't want any harm to come to her. Because of this, I see Peter as a means to an end for him as well.

THIS! He KNEW Peter loved Olivia yet was willing to trick him by replacing her with someone else, experimented on the real person he loved, and was willing to kill and dissect her without giving it a second thought! So much for his love for his son!

Another reason I doubt the purity of his intentions towards Peter is that he spent almost NO time with him once he got him back into the alternate universe. He brings him home, he's unconscious for three days, leaves him the schematic of the Machine to work on. Peter meets Walternate at his office (again, briefly), he shuffles him off on Bolivia and sends over the power source of the Machine for Peter to work on.

To me that says it's all about the Machine for Walternate.

[Chance]

I was a little creeped out by Walternate when he was talking to FakeyLlivia about the baby, and I got the impression he meant that Fakey would have every means at her disposal to use to bring Peter back over there. Presumably he thinks she will be a willing conspirator in this plan, wanting to be with the father of her child, but I suspect her maternal instincts, not to mention that she saw with her own eyes that the blue universe aren't the threat Walternate has portrayed, may have her turning against him and refusing to help. This leads me to wonder how things will play out for junior once he/she arrives.

[Half-devoured]

I honestly don't believe the baby will survive. I have a feeling that this will end in tragedy and, at the same time, the tragedy will bring Peter and Walter closer. Peter will finally understand what Walter felt when the blue universe Peter died.