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    Hey,
    was it really that thing with the church bells that caused this event of Olivia "returning" for a few seconds?
    But then something must have happened at another time. I mean there are bells everywhere (churches, hotels, restaurantes, some trams, etc...)
    Unlikely if he wouldn't have heared any "bell" in about 30 hours. And obviously Mr. Bell should have thought about that?
    Or do you think the whole thing with the bells ringing at that time was just a coincidence?
    I'm a bit confused about that...

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    Interesting that you made this connection, I somehow missed it. For me the church bells were
    a) indication of time passing, and that Bell might not have so much time to find a new host than he thought.
    b) indication of something supernatural - not necessarily god, but in Fringe souls exist, Bell suspects that fate exists, and even Angels are referenced.

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    I assumed that the sound of a bell is still William's tether, the sound of the church bells almost forced out his conscious from Olivia's mind, but he managed to cling on.

    And it isn't unlikely that this is the first sound of bells he has heard since he starting inhabiting Olivia's body. I sometimes do not hear bells for weeks.

    However, I have read some other theories on here which may suggest that William has slipped Peter soul magnets through his tea (as far as I know we did not actually see Peter drink any tea, but he may have done), and that when the bells rang he used it as an oppurtunity to slip into Peter's mind through the ingested soul magnets, but, for some reason it did not work and Olivia's conscious seized control for a few moments.

    It's unclear what Bell has planned, but no, I don't trust him at all.
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    I also thought about the tea. =D
    I wouldn't trust Belly at all after he told everybode about the tea he gave to Olivia that day in the WTC.
    I actually think you usually hear bells every day but you don't realize them because it's so usual?
    I don't know how often church bells are ringing in a city like Boston (In Germany you can hear church bells every 15 minutes but you usually don't realize that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    However, I have read some other theories on here which may suggest that William has slipped Peter soul magnets through his tea (as far as I know we did not actually see Peter drink any tea, but he may have done), and that when the bells rang he used it as an oppurtunity to slip into Peter's mind through the ingested soul magnets, but, for some reason it did not work and Olivia's conscious seized control for a few moments.

    It's unclear what Bell has planned, but no, I don't trust him at all.
    Being offered tea by Bell is creepy, for obvious reasons. But if you look at it realistically I donīt see how Bell could be in the possession of soul magnets right now:

    Itīs almost certain that he finished developing them on the other side, because else he would have prepared a vessel in the blue world long ago. Assuming that they are technology (after all, itīs a SF show) I donīt think that he could have simply and secretly constructed them in the few hours he spent in Oliviaīs body with everybody watching.

    Well ok, you could argue that he was able to send them here like he did with the bell (assuming that it is the same bell from over there and no copy) - but then you would have to assume that he hid them somewhere in Walterīs lab. Not impossible, of course, but a far fetch.

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    Perhaps it was not just the ringing of bells, but the note/frequency of the bells that triggered the shift. Presumably Bell calibrated his soul retrieval bell to ring at a very specific frequency. Maybe one of those church bells didn't just ring (and really, they're rarely actual ringing bells anymore, its usually digitally produced), but rang the same note/frequency that caused the issue.

    One would think he'd choose something unusual, and not something like 262Hz (middle C), but possibly the bells were playing something that contained the note used in his bell?

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    I'm secretly hoping there's some tonal basis for all this and that the answer will be found in the Violet Sedan Chair LP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieL View Post
    Perhaps it was not just the ringing of bells, but the note/frequency of the bells that triggered the shift. Presumably Bell calibrated his soul retrieval bell to ring at a very specific frequency. Maybe one of those church bells didn't just ring (and really, they're rarely actual ringing bells anymore, its usually digitally produced), but rang the same note/frequency that caused the issue.

    One would think he'd choose something unusual, and not something like 262Hz (middle C), but possibly the bells were playing something that contained the note used in his bell?
    That sounds logical. Perhaps you're right.

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    I don't hear bell for long long time

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    I would have preferred not using church bells. I would have rather had the original bell that William bequeathed to Nina to cause the change. Make it something specific to the science of that specific bell.
    I don't go for any bell..i mean there are millions of bells that go off.

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