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    Quote Originally Posted by tricked View Post
    The moment I saw that flash of lightening, the first thing I thought was "William Bell's soul"
    I thought it was telling us something . . . what, I wasn't sure, but there was a vibe about it.

    I just remembered what it reminded me of . . . a very cool Kurt Russel movie from maybe 25 years ago "Big Trouble in Little China"..

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    I also thought this scene was odd. I have to believe it was shot like that for a reason, but maybe it was as simple as showing how different the other side is.. I dunno?

    But that person with the mask was extra creepy, and the camera did focus on them for a bit. If that was just a random part of the scene, that is very weird for the writers to throw in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crocodilian View Post
    I thought it was telling us something . . . what, I wasn't sure, but there was a vibe about it.

    I just remembered what it reminded me of . . . a very cool Kurt Russel movie from maybe 25 years ago "Big Trouble in Little China"..
    I thought of 'advanced technology' and predetermination...As I have talked about a little before, Tales of FRINGE comic issue 4, Nina's issue, tells a back story in which she becomes pregnant with Bell's baby. The doctors tell her that her new arm is altering Nina's genes and can kill the baby, so she has to choose between her arm and her child. She talks to William about it and tries to persuade her to not have the baby and work with him at MD, but says he kows she has always wanted a family and the choose is hers. She chooses to have the baby...but one night before she has the surgery, she is struck by lightening in freak storm. The doctors told her she lost the baby, but if it hadn't been for her arm taking the brunt of the force, she would be dead too.

    --But really I asked myself after reading, if it wouldn't have been for her arm, would have she been struck by lightening? --It just is a weirder tale of moral ethics and I think that arm of hers relates to this first people technology and I can't shake the feeling that it's use causes havoc and also then my relate to 'old lost souls'

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    Quote Originally Posted by kloe View Post
    Someone mentioned this in the clues/easter eggs thread, but I wasn't sure if that was the right place to continue to pursue this...

    The reaction of the crowd in China town was pretty eerie.



    I found it VERY strange. Not only do they seem to do nothing to help (other than give her a jacket and stand around to stare) they don't call the cops or anything.

    They were so blank and emotionless, almost robotic. There is no reaction, no commotion, no change in pace, no sense of wondering "what's going on?"

    Someone has mentioned before about how people on the other side seemed to be a lot "cooler"... It must be a very scary and lonely place to be in trouble

    Was it just a deliberate attempt in filming to make the birth scene more eerie?

    Or maybe it's just the reaction of a society that has seen stranger things happen, and nothing phases them anymore? Even that doesn't quite fit, coz we've seen them in a panic of sorts (eg when Liv and the other Cortexikids cross over and the building needs to be ambered, the crowd seems 'normal')

    After the baby was born I found it rather strange when they started clapping. It took them awhile to react like there was a five minute delay between the event, and the crowds reaction. Also the clapping sounded almost forced and unenthusiastic.
    He was awake until five in the morning reciting the chemical compositions of his favorite beverages to me. That was right after he finished lecturing me on how I'd squandered my above-average intellect and my substantial education. All while he was standing there naked, because he prefers the breeze. "No matter who's at fault, you are my dad."

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    Quote Originally Posted by March14 View Post
    After the baby was born I found it rather strange when they started clapping. It took them awhile to react like there was a five minute delay between the event, and the crowds reaction. Also the clapping sounded almost forced and unenthusiastic.
    The clapping is intriguing.

    It contrasts rather oddly with the lack of interest in her before Henry and Lincoln arrive on the scene, doesn't it?

    I'm left with the impression: "they're the audience, they're not meant to be participants".

    Its striking to me that they're literally "on the other side of the glass", and that that is not the first time we see that in this sequence-- we saw Altlivia pounding on glass trying to get someone's attention earlier, and being ignored.

    Hmm. "The audience on the other side of the glass". Maybe they're us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crocodilian View Post
    Maybe they're us.
    If so, where's the one or two yelling about falling ratings and another three or four crying over how Fauxlivia broke Peter's heart?

    Just kidding.

    I like your subtext that the crowd is really us - powerless to intervene.

    I just figured, what with all the fabric-of-the-universe-shredding and all, that surviving childbirth was somehow significant.

    Not to mention Henry's awesome impromptu doctor role (like all good TV cabdrivers)

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    About the Storm. When she entered the alley and started to walk down it and then came the lightning and the thunder the first thing I thought of was William Bell's comment to our Olivia.
    A storm is coming, perhaps the last and greatest storm of all, and I fear for our Universe.
    Then I thought does the birth of this baby begin that stom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scully7 View Post
    About the Storm. When she entered the alley and started to walk down it and then came the lightning and the thunder the first thing I thought of was William Bell's comment to our Olivia.
    A storm is coming, perhaps the last and greatest storm of all, and I fear for our Universe.
    Then I thought does the birth of this baby begin that stom.
    "It is beginning." - Observer

    I think you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scully7 View Post
    About the Storm. When she entered the alley and started to walk down it and then came the lightning and the thunder the first thing I thought of was William Bell's comment to our Olivia.
    A storm is coming, perhaps the last and greatest storm of all, and I fear for our Universe.
    Then I thought does the birth of this baby begin that stom.
    Nifty. Certainly vibrates that way to me.

    And one more thing

    Ask yourself, in what other movie does a character stumble out into our world, bringing both destruction, and a twin to battle him accopanied by lightning?

    Hint the phrase "a storm is coming" was prominent in that series too -- actually, that phrase or close variants show up in not one but two science fiction/fantasy blockbusters.

    Which leads to my speculation du jour:

    Altlivia was pregnant with twins.
    Last edited by crocodilian; 03-29-2011 at 06:20 PM.

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    Twins!!!!!!!!!
    OK. Posit your theory!

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